
May 21st 2010
Dear Dartmoorlander,
as I read your section on witchcraft in Dartmoor I
stumbled on something that might interest you: The famous modern witch
Stewart Farrar seems to have located one of his novels - called 'The
Twelve Maidens' - in your area. Stewart Farrar was one of the leading
high priests responsible for the rise of the modern witch-religion
Wicca. His novel was published in the early 1970s, it deals with a fight
between good and evil witches. The evil ones occupying the 'Twelve
Maidens', a circle of stones located close to a town called "Bewlay" in
"the high Devon moors". I could not find a place by the name of "Bewlay"
online, this may be fiction. However, The Twelve Maidens bear a strong
resemblance, of course, to the Nine Maidens. The novel is one of the
most famous of the Wicca-Religion, I suppose it is well known amongst
modern witches, so it might be a reason for occurring rituals... .
Animal sacrifice and the usage of human hair for magic, as your section
on witchcraft mentions, does play a role in the novel.
Perhaps you already knew this, but I could not keep that
to myself. If you need any more information about this, please let me
know.
Kind Regards,
Martin Geilfus
May 21st 2010
Hello,
I'm looking for 'things' of interest about Dartmoor and
your superb site stops me from looking further. Now, these 'things' I'd
like to include in two pages of my book; Saddle the Wind.
Saddle is my 35,551 word m/s set on the moors. At this
stage I'll publish myself, after penguin 'knocked it back' only because
they wanted a minimum of 60,000 words. And as I'd started on the 2nd
Saddle adventure; additions spoilt, in my opinion, a follow-up story.
I ask if I may use-with 'acknowledgements into source'
some of your text and maybe illustrations? That said, I haven't yet
looked in great detail at the site's complete content, and before doing
so need to know if I can use some of it..
Below the foreword of Saddle the Wind. I've also written
a 90-page screenplay of Saddle.
Thank You, Ron Shears
May 5th 2010
Hi, Was just reading your webpage on the giant chair in
Natsworthy, we visited it this Monday 4th May and its still there in all
its glory! It really adds to the area so hopefully it will be there for
a lot longer!
Kind regards, Jamie
May 5th 2010
Hi Tim - This is Anne from the Museum of Dartmoor
Life. Just a short enquiry. Some one recently told me the
Bellever Idol story; as this hadn't
come to my attention before I checked out your web site & found the
April Fool pop up. Has he been fooled? Anne
April 17th 2010.
Hi, To save me taking a drive up there and adding to the
excuse of increased traffic along the narrow roads of Dartmoor... Could
you please tell me the status of... The Giants Chair of Natsworthy. Has
the situation has been resolved? is it still ongoing? or has it already
been removed. (Which would be a travesty) Many thanks & what a great
site.
As both of the emails below arrived on
the same day I presume the
Dartmoor Witches page was discovered by
Holly Owen who then instigated the second communication. I am sick and
tired of people telling me what I can or cannot put on my own website
and in this instance I will be altering NOTHING! Firstly the reference
to a link between the sheep killings and 'pagans' came initially from
the police and if it's good enough for them, it's good enough for me.
Secondly, both emails suggest that 'pagans' would never be involved in
ritual slaughter of this kind, I am sure there are many Muslims who say
that their like never get involved in human slaughter - try telling that
to the troops in Afghanistan. Thirdly it is noted below that these sheep
killings could possibly be attributed to 'Satanists' and that 'Pagans
do not believe in the Christian God'', so I am sure that 'Satanists'
do not believe in a Christian god therefore they must be Pagans! The
Oxford English Dictionary defines a 'pagan' as being: 'a person
holding religious beliefs other than those of the main world religions.'
Therefore I would suggest that by using the word 'pagan' to describe
those responsible for the sheep killings is perfectly legitimate, when
have so many animals been killed in such a manner by any believer
belonging to any of the 'main world religions?
April 13th 2010.
The loss of these animals would have been tragic, and
unfortunate that it would only be in the financial sense that the
absence of their lives would be felt. The value of the life so reduced
in these times. It's always interesting to hear information on the
history of Dartmoor, it being such a beautiful part of the world, but I
feel that your research has let you down in this article
Where pagans perform ritual slaughter of animals the
larger the ritual the greater the importance of the animal. For example:
Daisy the cow would get a nice little send-off, while another cow
ordinarily used for breeding would get a much grander send-off to
(hopefully) counteract the circumstances which brought about the
necessity for the slaughter of the animal in the first place. The reason
for this is because pagans (despite existing in all the varieties that
they do) view life, and everything that contributes to it, as being of
very great importance. Everything ritual and festival that occurs in the
year has its roots in the holy significance of life and death, whether
it be of animal, mineral or vegetable.
In other words, though these killings have very evidently
taken place next to cultural landmarks, the connection that is drawn in
your article between pagans and what appears to be willful motiveless
killing of animals is wrong. This has never been part of Pagan practice
and never will be unless the unlikely eventuality comes about where our
two species go to war, and even then it would be doubtful.
Can you please correct your article with this in mind?
I'm sure others feel, like me, that this is a slanderous accusation upon
our religion.
Yours,
LS Hamilton
April 13th 2010.
Hello there,
I have been browsing your Dartmoor website, and have
found the majority of it to be informative and an excellent read.
However, I would like to raise the issue of the page entitled Dartmoor
Witches, upon which you refer to troubling incidences of sheep killings.
While I agree that they seem to have been laid out in a
possibly 'ritualistic' manner, what troubles me is your explicit linkage
of these atrocities with Paganism. Modern-day Pagans would simply never
hurt a living creature in such a manner. The very foundation of 21st
century Neo-Paganism is based upon reverence for Mother Earth and all of
her living creatures. In fact, the majority of Pagans these days are
vegetarians.
The horrible incidents involving the sheep will have been
the work of disturbed individuals who have probably watched far too many
violent films. They may well have believed they were carrying out a
'Satanic' ritual - however, I need to point out that Satan is an
entirely Christian construct. Pagans do not believe in the Christian God
and certainly do not believe in Satan. It is a common misconception that
Pagans are linked with 'Satanism', 'Black Magic' and animal sacrifice. I
much prefer it when people call us 'tree-huggers' as while this tends to
be said in a mocking manner, at least it captures the inherent
gentleness of modern Paganism.
I hope you will amend your page as 21st century Wicca and
Paganism absolutely NEVER involve animal sacrifice and believe me, we
Pagans already have enough trouble dealing with prejudice without people
linking us with such abominable acts.
Thank you,
Holly Owen.
April 11th 2010.
hey im very interested in the history and suposed ghost
of dartmoor but i was just wandering where do u get all this information
plus would u meet me and show me these places as i wanna find out if
something is actually out there.
Yeah right, Ghostbusters are the next
door down,
March 31st 2010.
Hi Tim,
I'm 'trying' to research 'PUT ON / TAKE OFF STONES' in
Cornwall, but the only reference I can find to such items are the ones
you have detailed on Dartmoor. I am attempting to complete this years
Round Britain Rally, which is an event running from April Till October,
whereby motorcyclists locate 89 Landmarks around the UK. One such
landmark 'clue' on my list is ' PUT ON STONE AND TAKE OFF STONE (15
POINTS EACH) AT COOMBEGATE & CADSON, ST.IVE" That's all the info I have
and with your website being so informative, I hope you don't mind me
asking for help, as I thought you may have access to some research data
I can't find :) I think I've possibly traced them in the area of
Newbridge (PL17 7HW) and Pipers Pool (PL15 8QG) but they appear so far
apart and I'm wondering if they should be in pairs closer than this?
When using Google maps with coombegate in particular, the 'streetview'
gives a clear view of a stone at the roadsides edge although I cannot
see any detail. And I can see a stone against the walled gate at the
entrance to Cadson Manor, but again it's unclear. I've emailed the manor
and am hoping for some help from that location - are you able to assist
me on this one please?
Kind regards, Gary McDonough.
March 27th 2010.
Hi
I have visited your website Legendarydartmoor.co.uk and
would like to request an additional link to our website.
At UK Campsite Search we are working very hard at
promoting campsites and caravan sites in the UK's National Parks, having
visited many of these areas myself I know what they have to offer and
how important to the local economies tourism is.
You can view our Dartmoor pages here -
http://www.ukcampsitesearch.co.uk/dartmoor/
Please take a look at our website and let us know what
you think. It's always useful to have feedback from fellow website
owners.
Good luck with your site and any future ventures.
Kind Regards, John Conway .
March 24th 2010.
Dear Tim,
Being a mine of information on all things Dartmoor, I
wonder if you can help solve a mystery. Walking up the Erme from Harford
Bridge recently, I came across this old building which includes a brick
built aqueduct which probably carried water to a wheel. I've checked my
many Dartmoor books but can't find anything about it. Dartmoor National
Park Authority said an old map showed a pumping station in the vicinity
and wondered if it was anything to do with Bullaven house as an aerial
shot of the area in 1947 showed a swimming pool, but this substantial
building is much more than a pumping station. It has to be some sort of
mill. Have you any ideas or can you point me in the direction of someone
who might know?
May I also take this opportunity to say how much I enjoy
the Legendary website and your book on A Pilgrimage to Dartmoor Crosses.
I bought the book having discovered it in Exmouth library. These are
genuine comments.
Paul Huddart
March 23rd 2010.
Hi Dartmoorlander, nice read about the Ilsington Lych
Gate. I was born next door in The Old Post Office.
Regards. Cyril Honeywill.
March 18th 2010.
Hello, Can you tell me anything about the wonderful
bridge at the far end of the Meldon reservoir, please? Love the site,
very informative and helpful.
Mary.
March 17th 2010.
Dear Tim,
I have just seen your website for the first time after
Googling “St Michael de Rupe”. Absolutely fascinating stuff – well
researched and well written. I am particularly interested in evidence
for Roman occupation outside the “obvious” areas (having done my uni
dissertation on 1st century Britain) and have since childhood been a bit
obsessed with tracing old road networks on maps. So Google Earth is
heaven! (as well as, of course, the most massive timewaster when I
should be getting on with work, my post grad studies, housework etc.)
Which brings me to Spreyton. I cannot believe that church
font is Saxon: I will go so far as to say it is not Christian. Have you
ever seen any history for Spreyton beyond the limited stuff available on
Genuki etc.? Do you by any chance have access to any archaeological
sources not available online?
Kind regards
Ann
March 13th 2010.
Will you please amend the list of
licensees of the Warren House Inn, which is incorrect and should
read as follows:-
1988 - Present Peter Parsons
William (Bill) Ash was responsible for
changing the inside of the pub when he bought it from Brian Sillem
in 1963, and it was managed for him by Maurice Greenanway. I went
to the Warren in 1968 when Dennis Seaman bought it and managed it
for him until 1971 when he sold it to me. I then sold it to Tony
Berry in 1984, who then sold it to Peter in 1988. Peter Parsons
(whose father - Bob Parsons owned the Three Crowns in Chagford)
worked for me for several years as my bar manager, stayed on when I
sold it to Tony, and then subsequently bought it from him.
Kind regards
Basil Goad
Thanks Basil, duely
amended.
March 10th 2010.
Hi Tim,
Great website, I really enjoy reading the information. I
spend hours on Dartmoor walking and would have missed a lot of things
without your web site highlighting them.
Just some info I picked up last November which may be of
interest re your comments why the original engraving date is 21st March
and the new memorial says 22nd March, it may be relevant or maybe not at
all. I was one of a party of walkers who walked to the memorial on
Remembrance Sunday to pay our respects , it was one of the DNPA guided
walks.
Our guide new some of the crashes history but passed us
over to another gentlemen walking with us who had spent a lot of time
researching the crash, if my memory serves me he was ex RAF and
obviously retained his interest after his retirement.
1) My first recollection of this gentlemen's information
is one of the crew actually survived the crash and was taken to a local
hospital (Moretonhampstead I think) but died due to his injuries the
next day (22nd).
2) My second recollection is the bomber was returning
from a bombing mission in France and someone with us was pondering the
time differences between UK and France, was 22.50 accurate, maybe it was
23.05UK 21-3-1941 which may have been 01.05 France (+1hr) 22-3-1941?
My recollection 1) seems more likely to me. I often see
the DNPA guide and will have a chat with him when I see him and
reconfirm my recollection of events. I may also be able to find the
other gentlemen's name. The walk to the memorial has been an annual
event for a few years so I will attempt to attend again this year if it
is organized and listen more carefully.
Regards, Terry Horan.
March 3rd 2010.
Hello Tim.
I have spent a few months now looking for information on
names of people and places on/from Dartmoor. As I am in the 3rd rewrite
of my poem about Dartmoor. This poem is one of a handful required for my
creative practice module towards my degree. I wanted to write and thank
you for your fabulous research on ’The Moor’ which is and has always
been special to me. Not at least because I was born in Tavistock, where
the rest of my family, Aunts and uncles, Grandparents even Great
Grandparents where born in Torquay.
I will include you and your website in footnotes and
bibliography of course. I hope this is agreeable with you.
Kind Regards Debra McLean (AKA pen name Beatrice
Whyddon).
February 22nd 2010.
Hello, Do you know where I could get picture's of
Princetown during the snow in 1963? my father was a prison officer at
dartmoor I was living there at the time and remember very well seeing
the prisoners dig through the snow to make a pathway in the main street.
Also opening cattle grids to let sheep and pony's in so we could feed
them scraps. Which the pony's repaid us by nipping our rear ends!!
Kay Blatchford.
February 19th 2010.
Good morning,
I am doing a research about the evil eye tradition in the
British Isles and found in your web page that "hag stones" work against
it. My doubt is that if a hag stone, a serpent's stone, a snake stone
and an adder stone are all the same. Could you help me solve this doubt?
Thank you very much for your help.
Milagros Torrado Cespon
February 18th 2010.
Dear Tim,
Enjoyed your book recently and hence the contact. I have
been increasingly interested in history of our area (Village) and over
recent year have come across an old granite cross, picture attached
before cleaning it. I think the arms were removed but the raised small
cross is still evident. As a committee project this stone will be used
to mark the 400th anniversary of General George Monck born in Merton.
The cross if that is what it was, stood for many years in
a field opposite General Moncks home Great Potheridge at Merton. This
stone appears to be ancient. I so far have not been able to trace it on
any maps but live in hope it was recorded somewhere. It was knocked over
by farm contractors about 20 years ago and the farmer saved it - hence
us using it.
The question is of course what was it? a rubbing post
moved to the field by a farmer? an ancient way marker (my preferred
thoughts so far) a mark of something under ground? a boundary mark? The
field has not changed much since 1841 tithe maps, no one knows anything
about it other than seeing it in the field - approx middle of field.
There is no natural Granite in the area so it would presumably have been
brought in from Dartmoor. (so it could be a Dartmoor cross)
With your interest and knowledge I wonder if you have any
thoughts on it or where to locate any information?
The 1947 aerial pictures do not show it as too small I
suppose but I will look again with a glass to see if I can locate the
exact position in the field where it stood.
Philip Collins
February 16th 2010.
Hi there, Had to let you know of the great laugh I had
today. I've been wandering around this excellent site of yours, and
being a bird lover, found myself reading about the buzzards of Dartmoor.
I really wondered at "grace the sky" and "majestic" used to describe
these birds! Then I read on and realized you were describing what here
in the States we call hawks. Buzzards, here, are synonymous with
vultures, the huge ugly baldy head bird which eat carrion. :) Hawks,
buteos, on the other hand truly are, like you say, majestic and
graceful. Not completely lost in translation! Thanks for the thorough
site!
Rebecca.
February 14th 2010.
Mr. Sandles, Thank you so much for your incredible site!
It's been a wonderful supplement for my Dartmoor daydreaming. I've never
visited in person, and probably never will, so pictures and stories are
my manna. Have you ever considered putting all of your information from
the site into hardcopy? Might be a bit more manageable to peruse in a
book form. Thank you for your hard work on this project.
R Hardin
February 12th 2010.
Dear Tim Sandles,
Today, after many years, I finally made the long overdue
pilgrimage to pay homage at the grave side of William Crossing in Mary
Tavy Churchyard. Returning home I was prompted to see what information
might be hiding on the Internet about this remarkable man and just wish
to express my appreciation of the article you wrote about him under
Legendary Dartmoor. Thanks to Brian Le Messurier it didn't take too long
to find Crossing's resting place. I too was surprised to see no mention
of his moorland associations on the headstone. Regarding your comments
about "learned pontificators" I know of one place in particular where
Hemery pours scorn on Crossing's recollections of a building and
categorically denounces its existence. I refer to the Watchman's Hut on
Huntingdon above the ruined blowing-house on the left bank of the River
Avon in the area Crossing calls Higher Bottom. I have been to it on
numerous occasions and only wish it were possible to drag Hemery there
and "rub his nose in it". Isn't it so true of many deceased geniuses
that they die in poverty with later generations reaping the benefits of
their endeavours in more ways than one.
Thank you, Robert Woodland
February 10th 2010.
Dear Tim
I must congratulate you on your excellent Legendary
Dartmoor website. With reference to Cut Hill and the apparent mis-naming
of Cut Lane & Cut Hill streams, I contacted the OS and forward their
reply. They say the DNPA say Cut Hill stream is correct, and 'Hangman's'
is called Cut Hill Water !!
Further to my email of 3rd February regarding Cut Hill
Stream.
We have contacted Dartmoor National Park about this
issue. They have confirmed that OL 28 is correct and Cut Hill Stream
runs NW to SE into the East Dart River and that the stream that flows
west to east into the East Dart River is called Cut Hill Water. We have
added the name Cut Hill Water to our mapping and this will be available
in the next revision. We do appreciate the time and trouble you have
spent in communicating with Ordnance Survey.
Best wishes Ron Quilter
February 8th 2010.
Sir,
I've recently found your fantastic web site and I've just been reading
about Haytor. In September 1960 I joined the Royal Signals junior
leaders regiment that was stationed at Denbury, where the prison now
stands. I have a distinct memory of being invited to go rock climbing at
Haytor on my first Sunday there and I can positively state that the iron
hand rail was gone at that time. I always wondered who by and when the
steps were carved.
I recall many days spent on the moor during my two years as a boy
soldier. Among the most vivid of these of course is the 'Ten Tors'
expedition, getting lost at night in a blizzard and the day the whole
regiment was turned out on 'operation litter bug'.
Many thanks for your work on this project.
Roger Lashly
January 29th 2010.
I have noticed on your page devoted to Wells and springs
that you give a map reference of SX 7107 7640 for this well / spring.
I visited the "Slades Well" marked on the OS 1:25000 map
north of Chinkwell Tor and my GPS gave a reference of SX 7282 7840 which
very much agrees with the marked position. I have submitted two pictures
to Geograph for the square SX 7278. I hope this is of use to you.
Guy.
Thanks Guy, got the Slade's and the Shere
wells mixed up.
January 22nd 2010.
Hi Tim
Just been told about your Gutter Tor Cross page by Liz
Miall (Dartmoor guide), not bad ... I was there yesterday and took the
attached photos of the very nearby damaged apple crusher as well. You're
welcome to use them if you feel the need!
No doubt better photos will be taken in sunshine at some
date.
Cheers - Keith
January 17th 2010.
Dear Mr. Sandles:
I am writing you in regards to the story on your website
about the Oxenham family. I have been trying to find out more
information about this phenomenon of seeing white birds before the death
of a family member. Would you be able to suggest any websites or
resources about this?
When I was a young women (I’m 53 now), my mother told me
that her Mom saw white birds before a family member died. Mom told me
grandma hated it when she saw a white bird, which she saw in her mind’s
eye, because she didn’t know who was going to die or when. I didn’t
think much of the story until after my own mother died about 9 years
ago. Before she died I saw all kinds of white birds in my mind’s eye. I
had completely forgotten my grandma’s experience by then. After having a
few similar experiences over the years since my mom’s death, I am
convinced I have inherited my grandma’s “gift.” As far as I can tell, I
only see a white bird before blood relatives die.
I decided to keep a record of this phenomenon as an
experiment and do more research on the folklore related to it. My
mother’s family heritage is Irish and maybe Scottish, and I’m wondering
if that may have anything to do with it.
Cordially, Monica Curry
January 13th 2010.
Hi, I have been doing a bit of research recently on
Dartmoor plains and came across " Horrapit " plain mentioned on your
website. I can however find no mention of it in any of my Dartmoor
books, was wondering if you could enlighten me with a grid reference at
all?
Yours Jason Maddick
January 7th 2010.
Dear Mr Sandles
Reading your excellent article on the Duchy Hotel, I came
across “Amongst the artists who stayed there were B. W. Leader who was
supposed to have painted some 'exquisite gems' on the shutters of the
hotel. Although William Crossing refutes this by saying Aaron Rowe
informed him that a Mr. A. B. Collier was the culprit, (Crossing, 1966,
p.125).”
For what it’s worth (!), Arthur Bevan Collier, RA, lived
at Carthamartha, about six miles S of Launceston on the Cornish bank of
the Tamar. His obituary states “Dartmoor and the Thames valley, in
addition to the immediate neighbourhood of his home, fascinated the
artist, and excellent was the result.” I’m not sure when he died –
somewhere around 1900 – but I could go and check his gravestone a mile
or two away, at Lezant. Interestingly, and probably coincidentally, the
largest local landowners then were called Rowe – and still are.
My parents bought Carthamartha in 1962, when I was 15,
and instantly (in my opinion unforgivably) had it demolished. I live
there still, in a bungalow they built on the site. The old house was
dilapidated, and I only saw it once, but I remember that all the
internal doors were painted with flowers and country scenes, so I would
imagine Aaron Rowe was very probably right in stating that A.B.C.
painted his shutters. I have one painting by him, and a photograph of
the interior of the old house in its heyday, showing several paintings
of his, including some decorated furniture.
Best regards
Nigel Jonas
December 29th 2009.
Just to let you know that I visited this tor in the snow
today. I followed the instructions from Hemery’s book High Dartmoor and
I can give you a grid reference for your readers – it is 6836 8341.
There was even a small herd of red deer in the valley
down there so a lovely way to spend Christmas Day. Thanks for all of the
info on your site. I have only a few of your tors to visit to complete
the lot and start again!
Happy Christmas. - Tony Owen
Thanks Tony, I have added the grid
reference to the page.
December 12th 2009.
Hi Tim,
Firstly can I say what a fantastic and very interesting
website you have made. A very enjoyable read, you can just feel the myth
and legends come to life when walking over the moors.
I have been hiking for years mainly over Snowdonia and
the Brecon Beacons and have recently moved down to Devon. I have already
gone on a few hikes over the moors. Whilst hiking I came across some
people letterboxing. I thought that this was a fantastic idea and a
great way of getting to know the moor. I would love to get my own stamp
made up so i can leave my mark on the books. I was wondering whether you
can recommend a good place to get a stamp made up?
Thanks for the help
All the best - John
December 12th 2009.
Hi, Just found your site and read of the sighting of a
big black cat on Manaton green in April 2004. I actually saw this cat on
several occasions and have clear photographs of its tracks in the snow
taken just a few moments after sighting the beast. Its too lengthy to go
into in an email but I have bred Burmese cats for 21 years so wouldn't
be confused by any other animal nor its size especially very close up. I
first spotted it a day before it was seen by others at the village green
on the opposite side of the village at a woodland edge sitting in the
open looking up at birds who were making loud alarm calls, the noise is
what drew my attention, I noticed the size of the cat immediately and
was drawn by fascination to approach it, much to my surprise it didn't
move but merely switched its attention back and forth between myself and
the birds, as I got about 30 yards away with my knees like jelly and my
heart fit to explode I decided that I ought to try to scare it off so I
shouted and clapped my hands, at first it didn't move but eventually
stood for a few seconds looking directly at me and then turned and
slowly walked into the trees. The cat was (I did some comparative
measuring) knee high about 4 feet long and intensely black, the coat
seemed to be more an absence of light rather than black, the blackness
of an underground cavern, it was most definitely a black Puma with a
long tail. Since the April 04 sighting I have seen it twice more
including in the snow when I managed to get the picture of its tracks, I
took one of my mature cats out in the snow and did some comparison
pictures of her tracks, both sets against my hand as a scale.
My opinion is that it lived on small game which is
plentiful. I do not believe it large enough nor desperate enough to
attack large animals such as ponies and sheep, (more likely dogs) and
from its lack of fear of humans it must have been a pet at some time, I
expect it now dead of old age and given the nature of the moor unlikely
its corpse would be found.
I hope you found this of some interest, If the Puma and
its kin are still out there I hope they remain undisturbed, free to live
out a natural life.
Regards John
December 4th 2009.
Hi Tim,
Just found your site, too much to take in one visit, but
for a guy brought up on Dartmoor at hillside Merrivale Bridge, it brings
to life all I remember, even though my memories are dimming in age, I
visit all to rarely now, and being at Denbury at the outset of the Ten
Tors it is remarkable how large this early training exercise has become.
I look forward to more reading over the next few weeks/months.
Thank you again.
Tony Pope
November 29th 2009.
Dear Tim,
Dartmoor has held an enduring enigma and magnetism for me
for many years now, so all the more surprising that I only discovered
your excellent website a few days ago. Thanks for a superb site which I
am looking forward to reading from start to finish over the winter.
On Saturday 21st November, a friend, Steve Dent, and I
undertook an 18 mile round walk on Dartmoor which started at Whiteworks
car park taking in the Swincombe Valley, Ter Hill, Ryder’s Hill,
Pupper’s Hill, Huntingdon Cross, Erme Pits, the Langcombe Hill trig
point and then crossing the Plym River at Ditsworthy to take a stroll
back via Nun’s Cross in the dark. The weather was foul in a way that
Dartmoor weather has a habit of being but also as it turned out, a
severe weather warning weekend; the arduous crossing from Erme Pits
across Langcombe Hill was like walking against a freezing pressure
washer.
I’ve crossed the Plym at Ditsworthy on three previous
occasions in mid winter using both the weir crossing and the ford. When
the river hove in to view at half three in the afternoon coming down
from Hen Tor I could see immediately that the logic was flawed. The
volume and speed of water on the river was phenomenal and certainly
un-crossable: one thing I’m certain of is that any attempt to cross
would have made the headlines of the local papers in the most
undesirable way. This was the part of the walk that I was the least
concerned about and a stark reminder that Dartmoor is no home for
complacency! After looking at the ford, the weir, the ford, the weir,
walking up stream, considering the possibilities, the only reasonable
course of action was an unscheduled and un-researched pitch dark hike
over to Trowlesworthy Farm and hence to Cadover Bridge with the prospect
of a very long walk back to Whiteworks, or a taxi. Heroism can wait for
another day.
But back to the Legendary Dartmoor website…. It’s kindled
an immediate desire to get back to the Moor and explore more. Next time
I write I’ll try to do as your other visitors’ book contributors do and
make some more learned comment.
With kind regards,
Graham Rouse
November 28th 2009.
Hi Tim,
My name is Emma and I'm a Canadian student doing my
teacher training at the University of Exeter. I'll be teaching secondary
English with drama. Our major term project is to design a 6 week scheme
of work for a year 7 class. I've chosen to do mine on Dartmoor legends.
I've never even been to Dartmoor but it seems magically alluring to me.
Looking through your website I've realised the wealth of
legends that exist. I was wondering if you could point me to your
favourites -- or something you think a year 7 student would enjoy.
Also, in your biography you mention a TV program in which
you're featured. Where can I get my hands on a recording? I think it
might be a good resource for background information.
I would really love to hear any ideas you might have. I'm
really excited about this project and would like to make it as
interesting as possible for my future students!
Thanks so much for your time and for making such an
interesting website!
Emma
November 22nd 2009.
Tim- I've just finished watching The Hound of The
Baskervilles for the umpteenth time. A great movie. I find the bogs and
moors very interesting and was moved to "dig" into them a bit on the net
and "stepped" into your site. It is very fascinating. I'd love to see
the bogs in the flesh, but alas, funds. For now I'll have to be
satisfied with your vivid descriptions and photos. Great stuff. Thanks!
Pat Parker Centralia, Washington USA.
November 19th 2009.
Hi Tim, Always a good interesting web site, where one is
able to gain a considerable amount of knowledge. As a second year
student at Plymouth University studying Archaeological Practice I have
to produce a research project throughout the year on my chosen subject.
As I live in Ivybridge am a great lover of Dartmoor I am choosing to do
a study on the Staldon Row with a phenomenological approach. I have the
Butler books and Worth's Dartmoor. As you seem to have a great knowledge
of Dartmoor and its sites I would be extremely grateful of any
considerations or help you would be able to provide me with. Thanks
Alistair.
November 13th 2009.
I walked out to the Grey Wethers last Monday. What I saw,
and what maps ans aerial views of them I have seen suggest to me is that
there are are two separate stone circles next to each other, not one
inside the other. So what do you mean when you say that the circles are
concentric, which is stated twice in the web page.
David Tyers
Many thanks for pointing out the error,
this has now been corrected, by the way - which charm school did you go
to?
November 10th 2009.
Good Morning Tim
I am writing in the hope you may be able to assist - I am
currently researching for BBC Radio Devon. Pippa Quelch BBC Radio Devon
is producing a radio programme to go out on Friday 13th November the
main topic will be superstitions.
We came across your site online and wondered if you would
be prepared to take part in the show? If you are free the show will be
recorded on Friday 13th and you would need to be in the studio by 3 pm.
Best wishes
Byron Jackson
November 9th 2009.
I recently came across your website
'legendarydartmoor.co.uk' when researching different types of wetland,
trying to find some more information for my studies on dartmoor
conservation.
After reading through your 'about the author' page it
became obvious that you know a lot about dartmoor, and have been there
many times. I was wondering if you could help me: How did you go about
getting all of your knowledge in the first place? I'm curious about
different methods of research, such as practical work and theory,
comparisons between the two and how you would go about doing any
practical work on wetlands without professional equipment etc.
Thanks. Any help would be appreciated,
Caz.
November 1st 2009.
Dear Mr Sandles,
As a reader who has always enjoyed reading your Legendary
Dartmoor site, I was taken aback by the remarks you make in your
moorland ramblings article (the part about John Bishop's house). As
someone who has lived and worked on Dartmoor all my life (I was brought
up at Ford Farm in Manaton), I know something of the issues around
conservation. For many years I worked on my father's farm, but I have
also been working in Dartmoor primary schools introducing Year 5 and 6
children to Dartmoor's history and folklore since 1991.
I am now director of MED Theatre, the community theatre
company which led the project about children highlighting their
aspirations which you refer to. I find it disappointing that you should
damn their efforts to engage with conservation on Dartmoor. If the young
people who live here are not introduced to the importance of Dartmoor's
heritage, and encourage to engage with it, then their attitude to it
when they assume positions of power and responsibility, is likely to be
uninformed. How will these children feel when they come across your
comment about their project, which involved two years hard work,
resulting in two Dartmoor plays and a DVD documenting their developing
attitudes to their local heritage? I agree with you that John Bishop's
house should be conserved.
Yours sincerely Mark Beeson
October 31st 2009.
Hi Tim
Thanks for a great site, which I regularly visit.
I read with interest the legend of the fire at the Warren
House Inn! I then investigated the legend that it is the oft-stated
"fact" that it is the third highest pub in England. I found an internet
source that stated it was, in fact, only the tenth highest pub in
England - http://www.garydickson.co.uk/pubs.html. I have had a look at
the pubs concerned on Google Earth and confirmed with OS maps, and have
compiled the following list, which is in the same order as the website
above:
Tan Hill Inn DL11 6ED 523ft 1717m, Cat & Fiddle
Inn SK11 0AR 515ft 1691m, Travellers Rest SK17 0SN 465ft
1528m, New Inn SK17 OSW 467ft 1531m, Kirkstone Pass LA22
9LQ 450ft 1477m, Royal Cottage Inn ST13 8UH 452ft 1486m,
Mermaid Inn ST13 8UN 444ft 1458m, Winking Man ST13 8UH 443ft
1456m, Miners Arms CA9 3PF 435ft 1430m and Warren House Inn
PL20 6TA 431ft 1417m
Kind regards
Andrew Hackney
October 29th 2009.
Dear Tim,
Hello!
You may recall that I contacted you some time ago during
my research for the book - remember the Maximajor stone?. I'm pleased to
say that it has now been published and I hope you might be interested in
buying a copy. I've attached a one-page file which gives a resume and
incorporates an order form. I'd be very pleased if you helped in the
sales drive of a first-time author!.
Best regards,
George Major
October 28th 2009.
Hello Tim, sorry to bother you, I am emailing from the
Tavistock Times, I have done a story about a couple from near Lyme Regis
who have a family connection to a man called Harry Hoar who shot his
former fiancé after she left him, this was back in 1879. I was then
informed of your story about the Peter Tavy murders and was wondering if
I could use some information from your page? We could put your name by
the story if you would like?
Hope you can help?
Best wishes, Lindsay Bright
October 27th 2009.
Hi Tim
Have found your website today while sitting in China Blue
in Totnes waiting for wife and daughter to create their masterpieces! I
put Logan stone into Google on my Blackberry as I wanted to find out
what they were as I have seen them on the maps ( also nutcrackers), your
site came up and I must say it looks great with loads of info.
I live with my family in Paignton and used to go onto the
moor as a child with my father. We holiday a lot in the Highlands and I
have an ambition to walk the Larig Ghru in the Caingorms ( the 40 mile
circular), but first I must get fit enough and what better place to
train than Dartmoor. It has now gone further than that I we are now
aiming to walk every Tor on the moor and the accessible ones off the
moor. I am using reference books by A D Johnson Walking the Tors and
Hilltops of Dartmoor he lists 190 of them and also a book that is now
out of print called The A to Z of Dartmoor Tors by Terry Bound he lists
app 300! I am wondering if you know of any other references available
and if their is an actual definitive guide to how many Tors there are,
their names and locations. Since September we have clocked up ninety
tors on my days off! I am also planning in the spring to walk from
Ivybridge to Okehampton, camp the night then walk back the next day. In
the summer I want to circum-navigate the moor, I may do this one in aid
of Rowcroft Hospice Charity, I would imagine this to take a few days!
Since I have started this Tor bagging game I have become increasingly
more interested into the history of Dartmoor, for me getting onto the
Moor is a release of the daily routine of running my own Taxi company
and I find an immense connection with the landscape as I do in Scotland.
I will enjoy reading your info on your site, if you have any ideas for
me I would be very grateful.
many thanks
Steve
October 22nd 2009.
I have been putting a few links to your pages from our
gazetteer page and have just checked
yo put in one for the Ten
Commandments at Buckland Beacon when I noticed two tiny mistakes. I am
assuming that you would want to know about them on the basis that I
always want to know whent
there are errors on our web site.
So, http://www.legendarydartmoor.co.uk/ten_command.htm
and the last paragraph. . . . stream allowed to to wash . . . (him to?)
and . . . 1995 and the letter painted . . . (letters?)
All best wishes
Rodney Willett
Many thanks for pointing out the 'typos',
one good turn deserves another - see above.
October 20th 2009.
Hello. My name is Alec Graham. I've been looking at your
site, especially the pages about RAF plane crashes on Dartmoor.
I have been researching what happened to my uncle, Pilot
Officer Alec Graham and it was his Spitfire that crashed and
unfortunately killed him. It has been my intention to try to visit the
crash site for sometime. If you would like more details to update your
site I am happy to provide them.
Best wishes
Alec Graham
October 15th 2009.
Dear Tim Sandles
Sorry to trouble you with this e-mail - but just wondered
if you could help with the following :- I am presently compiling a small
book on the Pseudo meteoric events of the British Isles - ( including
some Fireball incidents ) - which I hope to self publish next year, and
in researching same, I came upon your interesting website, and your
feature on the event at Widdecombe in the Moor in 1638.
As this event is of interest to my own project, I write
to inquire if I may reference your website in my proposed book - on the
understanding that due credit is given to your work and to the original
data sources. I do not wish to copy your work verbatim - but use my own
wording where possible - to avoid undermining your own research effort.
Please advise if this is acceptable to you,
Thanking you for your time yours sincerely
JAMES D ROBINSON.
October 14th 2009.
I found your very interesting item on Brittan after
deciding to research the history of two old pictures I acquired some
time ago. I must admit I had never heard of him but just loved the
scenes of Dartmoor. They are, I believe, framed prints(?) with mounts
handwritten Charles E Brittan with the titles 'Crip Tor & Sharp Tor' and
'Walkham Valley & Pew Tor'. The latter has a group of very indistinct
sheep or brush on the left about two-thirds of the way down the picture
and large clear granite slabs in the lower foreground on the right with
some misty trees/shrubs in the background just over half way across to
the right. The former has again clear large slabs and heather in the
left bottom corner, four sheep towards the right and a misty hill with
trees/shrubs on the horizon to the left.
Celia Snoxell
October 12th 2009.
Having returned 'home' for a weekend in Exeter, I came
across the Giant's Chair whilst out cycling and discovered your website
when looking for info on it. Following up on this I see that the recent
planning app has now been withdrawn with some mention of possible
agreement of a new location for the chair. I wonder if it is related to
the other email you mention receiving?
I hope the new site, if it does indeed move, provides an
equally compelling view. I think the location as much as the structure
itself it what makes it so special. Many thanks for your wonderful site!
Regards Simon
October 11th 2009.
Hello Tim,
Having today taken a very wet and misty walk on the
ridge, I became fascinated with the 'anti - glider' poles that are still
visible on the ridge, and to which you site gives some information. I am
intrigued as to 'why there?' Presumably these were also placed on other
parts of the moor that would have been considered landing sites, or was
there some strategic significance associated with the ridge?
My only conclusion was that it is pretty high up, so if
you are going to bump a glider it seems a convenient place to do so ,
but with a bit of a 'tab' to then get anywhere of (military)
significance. Can you enlighten me any further?
Great site by the way.
Best wishes,
Andy H
October 11th 2009.
Hello Tim
Well I was on hols last week and it rained for 3 days, so
I hardly saw anything that I wanted. I did, in fact, see the inside of
pubs more than anywhere else!!
However, I did managed the small stone circle by Soussons
Plantation and needless to say there was not a midge in sight!! I did
dowse it and found five minor energy lines crossing it. But they are
were not major ones. It is a very nice circle that has a lovely feeling
inside it.
Can't tell you about any other circles as it is the only
one I managed. Altogether a disappointment, as I had been looking
forward to the week for soooooo long. Especially as we’d had 5 great
weather weeks before and another one coming. I am usually so lucky when
I go away. I shall have to try again another year.
Best wishes and thanks for your previous help, Pauline
Jenkins
October 5th 2009.
Hi,
I am writing to enquire whether we may be able to set up
links via websites. We have a simple and inexpensive camping field
currently used by schools and colleges for expedition training and basic
camping skills. We are in the process of building our website and would
like to advertise sites such as yours, providing as much information as
possible for our visitors.
I look forward to hearing from you on this matter.
Kind Regards, Karen Vass
October 2nd 2009.
Hi, you mention History channel documentary due in
October, don't want to miss your TV debut do you know what it will be
called so I can keep an eye out for it, I have tried doing search on
History page but nothing came up. Thanks for your web site very
informative and you have a great sense of humour!.
Maureen & Robin Vane
September 30th 2009.
Thank you very much, one of the nicest things I have read
on the old chap. I will forward it to my children. Perhaps one day we
will meet.
Regards, Peter Crossing
September 22nd 2009.
Hello! I love visiting your extensive and informative
site about Dartmoor. I am very much interested in Vixen Tor, as I would
like to put it in a story I am writing. I know there is a small cave on
its south side. Can you tell me anything about this cave (size, depth,
etc) and might you have photos of it? I realize I cannot go and explore
it, as it is closed to the public.
Thank you
Mark Torrender
September 21st 2009.
Hi!
I just wanted to make contact and say haw much I've
enjoyed reading through your site. When I first started letter boxing it
was invaluable in persuading my 9 year old son it was a worthwhile
pursuit but after just one trip to Bellever Tor he was as hooked as me!
Last weekend we followed your short route to the Mecca - Cranmere
Pool..... So I feel like a 'real' letter boxer now I've been there!
Just a quick question following that trip (seeing as you
seem to be a fountain of Knowledge) : do you know why and for how long
the military road is closed? There are some fantastic places along that
road we wound love to explore some time soon!
Thanks again Pete (Exmouth)
September 16th 2009.
Sir,
please do not think me absurd when I recall that as a boy
( b 1939), I remember that my parents had a bottle opener that had
particular appeal for my three sisters and myself. Alas the bottle opener
disappeared sometime in the 1950's and I would like to find a
replacement. About 41/2 inches in length. The mouth of the bottle opener
was steel. At the top of the tool was seated a solid brass Dartmoor
Pixie. I would like to make a day trip to Dartmoor to try to locate such
a bottle opener (new or antique) but I do have a long way to travel from
the Midlands and I wonder if you could perhaps advise me on the most
likely town or village where such curios may be found. I
would be most grateful for whatever advice you are able to give.
Yours sincerely, Alan Sims.
September 15th 2009.
Hi Tim,
Sorry personal name use. I know we've never met, but ...
I'm a personal name user!
I have visited you site many times and may I say .... I
don't know how you have the energy to plough so much time and variation
into it! ... but, so glad that you do. I have been meaning to pass my
appreciation to you for quite some time. I love visiting and walking on
the moor. I also like folksong, folklore, storytelling and photography,
so what a find your site was to find. Whereas I used to do long hikes
over the tors, as a striding athlete, nowadays I tend to do "strolls"
usually with some "focus" attached to them. Some of those focuses have
been to visit places of stories you've mentioned and to take a photo
memento of "the scene". Thanks for your efforts!
The timing of this particular email is really that I was
on Sheeps Tor this past Sunday and thought I'd pay another visit to the
Pixy Cave in its clitter. I had visited it some years ago, after much
seeking and had crawled in and taken some photos, at that time in slide
format. Being a digital camera user these days I thought that I would
re-visit and take some digital pics. A glance at your mentioning it in a
fairly recent website addition just brought it back to mind.
Well, it took me longer to find this time and, when I did
find it, it took me more difficulty to crawl in! However, purely for
your amusement I thought you might like to see some very up to date
shots of the interior. Inside I found the little ceramic pixy and two
letterbox cans. A job to get great shots but I thought worth a try. I
also certainly took some outside shots ... to help find it next time!!!
As I say, love your site. Congratulation! Having recently
retired from Special School teaching I hope to have a bit more time for
more rambles. Good wishes, Roger Smith
September 8th 2009
Hi
I just wanted to say how much I enjoy your Legendary
Dartmoor Series. I live in Torquay and last year with my 11 year old
grandson started Letterboxing. After many adventures on Dartmoor
(including losing him on the path to Wistman's Wood, very spooky) I
looked on your site and it inspired me to write a work of fiction based
on some of the obscure connections I have made on Dartmoor. Not that I
believe in the spirit world etc. I’m finding the place fascinating and
as a result of your website have visited previously ignored sites and
landmarks. If I ever get this written and published you will be the
first to know but I just wanted to know how much I appreciated your
website.
Regards, Lesley
August 29th 2009.
‘Thar be piskies up on Dartymoor, And ‘tidn’t no good
you say thar baint, I’ve felt um grauping at my heart, I’ve heard their
voices calling faint’ - I saw this on your
site, with interest. Who is the author of the poem? I remember it from
long ago - or at least, some of it - and I'd like to see again the whole
poem. Can you assist?
Regards, MC.
August 26th 2009.
Hi Tim,
I see on your links page that you are open to
requests to include links to other not-for-profit sites. I would be
most grateful if you would link to my site,
www.devonperspectives.co.uk, which now has a fair bit of content
relating to Dartmoor and the towns around it. I have used your site
as a valuable source of reference in many instances, and have
included various links to Legendary Dartmoor pages, including a link
to your home page on mine.
Regards, Tony Dunlop
August 24th 2009
Hi Tim,
I've been very much enjoying your website, and wondered if I might
trouble you with a quick random question: Hypothetically, if one found
oneself on Dartmoor around May-time, in the Tavistock/Casey Town area,
would there be any berries etc. available to pick off bushes and eat? I
know it's an odd question, but I just wondered if you could help.
Thanks in advance,
Lyndsay Wheble
August 24th 2009
Dear Dartmoorlander
I wondered if you have available in high res scan your black and white
image of Wistman’s Wood. We would like to consider it for the above
title which is a collection of essays with an introduction by Bill
Bryson, published in aid of the CPRE. Nothing is certain at the
moment, but it would be nice to know whether or not a scan would be
available.
All best
Sheila
August 24th 2009
We were delighted to see the Giant's Chair on our recent visit to
England and Dartmoor. The view is superb and the chair is wonderful. I
am rather amazed that the Park Planning board wants it removed. The only
reason we heard about it was word of mouth from a local source and there
was only one other couple on the path. It is rather a long way and we
saw only one car parked near the entrance and that was to see Jay's
grave which is noted in most tour guides and the more likely cause of
parked cars. Besides the local bus does goes there. It is very sad that
such a wonderful spontaneous piece of sculpture should be removed.
Dartmoor is a lovely place to visit and the Chair is a surprising (in
the best way) addition. I am glad we experienced it before its planned
demise. Thank you for your interesting and entertaining site and I hope
the Chair is saved.
August 20th 2009.
Hello What a fantastic website. I'm so glad I found you.
Callie
August 16th 2009.
Hello,
I was going through some things of my Mom's and came across a picture
which hung in our family home as long as I can remember. It is signed in
the bottom right corner. It is in it's original frame and matt. The
painting is called "Walkham Valley and Pew tor". Perhaps you could refer
me to someone to appraise this work and tell me something about it.
Thanking you in advance,
Jean Green, Brighton, Ontario, Canada.
August 16th 2009
Hi Tim,
My name is Ian Clifton and I am very lucky to be living in Tavistock and
for the 2years, I was even more fortunate to able to ride out on the
moor all day as my job. Whilst out riding I was always intrigued by the
Tors and origin of their names. Unfortunately I have never been able to
trace any books which cover this area of my needs for this information.
I would very much appreciate any information you could give me that will
help me in my quest.
Many thanks Ian.
August 9th 2009
Hi Tim,
We corresponded last winter about Whiddon Deer Park and the deer of the
Teign Valley. At the time, I promised you some photographs. These will
eventually be forthcoming (life gets in the way...), but in the meantime
I have been out picking berries, and looked up your excellent webpage on
the subject - lots of interesting history I didn't know. I have taken a
few pictures for a blog entry - please find attached - you are most
welcome to use these on your page if you are interested. If not, I will
not be offended! As I have said before, I find your site very useful,
and would like to give back if I can. Deer Park pictures to follow
eventually!
Cheers, Phil Mason
See Dartmoor Hurts page for Phil's photos -
HERE
August 9th 2009
I am trying to put together a story about Kitty Jay of Jay's Grave.
Where can I get some information on the 'ghost'. I am also looking for
info about The Ghost Rider east of Widecombe, the ghost cottage, the
ghostly hitch-hiker on the A38 and The Watchers Place on the B3212
near(ish) the town of Moretonhampstead.
Yours - John Barnes, Perth, Western Australia.
August 2nd 2009
Just been doing some research for my week’s holiday on Dartmoor in a
couple of months time and I came across your great websites. As I am new
to the Dartmoor area could you please tell me how to get to Scorhill
Circle. I have an OS map but can't work out where I can park car and
start the walk to the circle. I am not one of the worlds great walkers
so any help would be extremely helpful. Thanks so much,
With kind regards
Pauline Jenkins
August 4th 2009
Hi, I was just wondering if the giants chair at Natsworthy is still
there? I visited it last year and thought it was brilliant, and would
love to take my friend to see it. However I had heard rumours that it
was coming down. Thanks, Clare.
July 31st 2009
Patron Saint of Dartmoor - I went to your page seeking elucidation on a
quote from A Handbook of Devon Parishes by Helen Harris. The quote was
"It [St Michael's Church CHAGFORD] includes a chapel dedicated to St
Katherine, patron saint of tinners." If such is true then she must be up
there a a good contender for the post. If I find out some support for
the idea I'll let you know.
Melville Bishop
July 28th 2009
Myself and two other walkers recently completed walks where we visited
every stone cross on Dartmoor. We've decided to have a follow up project
and thought perhaps bridges, in particular, clapper bridges, might be a
suitable target. However, we have struggled to find a suitable text or
list of bridges that we can purchase and plan our routes. Have you got
any recommendations? I noticed a reference on your website to a book
entitled 'Clapper Bridge' by T. Darvill (2002), but I presume this about
clapper bridges in general. Even so I might still be interested in
acquiring it. Could you supply me with further details please. Thanks in
anticipation - Laurence Day.
July 27th 2009
I am trolling around looking for family info (Moretonhampstead) and came
across your site. Thank you for all the information.
Just one thing:
Sales Mananger?
:)
Mary Sawtell.
July 16th 2009
Hello Tim
This is just a quick Thank You note for you!
We really like your website, it gives a lot of information, presented in
an understandable and clear way. In August we're hoping to spend our
Summer holidays on Dartmoor, in Manaton. Your site is a big help for us,
as now we can have a first look at what is of interest. To that purpose
we've saved your complete site onto the disk of our notebook, so we can
bring it with us.
Wishing you all the best with your site,
Elisabeth & Erik Jan Eskes The Netherlands.
July 14th 2009
Hello, After a walk on Pew Tor this evening, we were driving back to
Tavistock and saw a hare heading towards Horrabridge. I've never seen
one before, but it was too big to be a rabbit - very long legs and big
pointy ears. It was a lovely sight! Just thought that you might like to
know that there are some still around! Kind regards
Jon.
July 12th 2009
Dear Dartmoorlander,
Having been up to the chair a few times and thinking how
wonderful the view and the ambience is up there on a nice day I had to
know what’s the situation now – has it been taken down/plans made to
take it down?
It would be such a shame if it has!
Many thanks, Bill.
July 9th 2009
Forgive the intrusion but I wonder if you could let me know the fate of
the Natsworthy Chair? I cannot find anyone who can let me know the
address/email/tel. number of the owner? I would be interested in
contacting them as we have a place for it to go , outside the park but
on the moor.
regards Gavin Dollard Delamore Arts.
July 6th 2009
Hi,
I have recommended your excellent site to many and actually visited it
this evening to show lady from nearby Lamerton who wanted a poem or some
prose for their Festival. It may not seem connected but we live right
next to the gorge and when first researching our property, it wasn't
until a visit to the records office in Exeter and a look at the earliest
map that I discovered that the waterfall and that part of Brentor was
not even Brentor Parish but part of Lamerton.
I write to point out that the fourth painting at the bottom of the left
hand column of your White Lady photo collection could be the Devils
Cauldron at the opposite end of the gorge but is more likely to be Kitts
Steps, slightly upstream of the gorge and actually closer to Lydford
than the White Lady waterfall. This much smaller waterfall on the Lyd is
more powerful but not as tall, was also part of the Victorian tour of
Lydford and is sometime called the Lydford Cascade. I have a couple of
photos, one from a postcard and another taken myself last year.
Unfortunately it was many years ago that the then owners decided to
fence them of for safety and it has remained out of bounds ever since.
The current owner will take visitors but it is now so over grown to be
hard to appreciate.
I have put a photo on that website that show the white lady water fall
in full flow with a white lady in a wedding holding a posy. Takes a bit
of imagination but not too difficult.
Regards, Adrian Hepworth.
June 25th 2009
Although I have been walking over the moor for a few years, I have only
today come across your web-site. What a wonderful site it is, lightly
written and with really interesting facts. I think we all agree with
your comments regarding the “mad hatter.”
I shall be using your site regularly from now on and thank you for the
information that it contains.
I live near Bishopsteignton, so am regularly up on the moor, year round.
One of my favourite days is to catch the bus from Newton Abbot to Haytor
and then walk home along the Templar Way.
Yours sincerely, Chris Grimshaw.
June 19th 2009.
I am contracted to write a book about Derbyshire Crime. I have your
article about George Woodcock and have written a little about him
especially his links with Derbyshire. I seek permission to reproduce
into my book the cartouche of him at the prison gates.
Thanking you in anticipation Peter.
June 19th 2009.
After browsing a few websites for "Lady Howard", I came upon the
Legendary Dartmoor site. I want to commend you on the best and most
complete recounting of the 'Wicked Lady Howard' legend and the true
stories of the characters. In the early 1960's I was travelling one late
night through the Devonshire countryside when our van passed a lone
bicyclist wearing a dark coat. After travelling a short distance our
curiosity prompted us to turn around to get a better look at the man.
Once again we found him riding toward us. Again we turned around to
continue our journey but now the road was empty. I suppose this could be
spun into a ghostly tale given enough time. After recounting the
experience to several local residents we were told that there was a
simple explanation for what we had seen. Apparently there was a man
living in that area who composed crossword puzzles and did so while
riding his bicycle late at night. He was able to keep the whole
composition in memory until he returned home and put it to paper.
June 18th 2009.
Dear Mr Sandles,
I note on your web site you quote a verse written by my great great
grandfather, Edward Capern. Capern, as you may know, was a passionate
Devonian.
I thought you might like to know that I have just published a book about
Capern - "Edward Capern, the Postman-Poet" published by Pegasus Elliot
Mackenzie - www.pegasuspublishers.com
With best wishes, yours sincerely, Ilfra Goldberg.
3rd May 2009
Hi Tim,
I thought I might send you some info on Sheeps Tor on Dartmoor in
particular the location of the Piskies Cave as I managed to photograph
it for you, seeing as I have gained so much inspiration for my book from
your website, I thought I would return the favour.
I am currently writing a children's fantasy novel set on Dartmoor and am
doing my field research and so wanted to find the location of the cave
going on the 1890 description from William Crossing in his Dartmoor
Piskie book. I found it, it was not easy but when you know where it is,
it is quite obvious really. I found a few letterboxes on the Tor with
many people's comments on not finding it, it seems everyone is looking
to high up on the Tor.
The actual cave is exactly as Crossing describes, in size and difficulty
to gain access to, but a perfect hideaway. A date from I think 1911
seems to be carved into the rock inside and it did have a few mysterious
items in it, including a pixie statue and a resident bat.
I have taken photo's from the entrance towards two barns directly in
front of it, the cave lies in the huge clitter of boulders quite low
down on the Tor directly North from the barns as the crow flies, near a
small tree amidst the rocks, the cave is sitting amidst hundreds of
fallen boulders below the huge precipice of Sheeps Tor, The village
church is clearly visible from the entrance. Access into the cave is a
struggle but well worth the effort, and in fact there is a sister cave
next door with a sign inside saying Pixie Paul's Cave. There a few items
left by others in both caves as gifts for the pixies. Enjoy the photo's
and watch out for my novel.
P.S Don't wear shorts when cave hunting.
Kindest Regards
J.J. Adams.
1st May 2009
Mr. Sandles, I felt I had to drop you a line thanking you for the
information you posted on your “Legendary Dartmoor” site concerning wart
charmers. I was telling a friend of mine about how I could remove warts.
Although she didn’t come out and say she thought it was a lot of hooey,
I was pleased to be able to show her your wart charming info.
I’ve been removing warts since my early teens. At first I
bought them, but now just need to see them. To “legitimize” the process,
I tend to touch them. Haven’t know of a wart I’ve not been able to
remove.
Thanks again. I look forward to investigating more of
your site.
Charming Chad
Chad S. Andrews
Administrative Assistant
University of Arkansas, Fayetteville, AR 72701.
19th April 2009
Hello Tim,
Firstly, you have an excellent website; informative with a nice splash
of humour. As a keen walker myself, I too enjoy the various 'moods' that
Dartmoor has to offer, and the inexplicable 'time and magic' that can
capture a moments rest during a walk.
I am wondering if you are aware of an oddity that was pointed out to me
when on a recent walk. I was standing at Smallacombe rocks overlooking
the valley, when this pleasant elderly gent (clearly well informed)
pointed out to me a carving in the rock which spelt the word 'DOOM.'
This is not obvious to the eye (indeed I was sat on it!) but can be seen
with a little effort (or water). It is somewhat eroded and there are no
other clues as to why this word would be there . A quarryman from nearby
Haytor perhaps? Smallacombe as you know comprises a number of scattered
rocks, and I'm not sure how to pinpoint the preciseness of this carving
on the standard OS map (and sadly don't possess anything as tech as a
sat nav). If I ever get a reading I will let you know.
I thought it might interest you to know it was there.
Best wishes with your project.
Andrew.
14th April 2009
Dear Tim
I thought I would drop you a line to congratulate you on your website. I
have been writing a small article on the River Dart and have been
expanding on places such as Wistman's wood, Buckland in the Moor, Jolly
Lane cot etc. The background information which you provide help to bring
the places "to life".
Although it is only a 3 part x 2 page article I have quoted your website
address in the reference list in the hope that other people will gain
great pleasure from your site.
I am principally a photographer by trade and you may be interested in
seeing some of my Dartmoor images on my website. I would imagine that
they are all very familiar to you.
With my best wishes
Nick
www.nickshepherd.com
22nd March 2009
Dear Tim Sandles
Went for a walk yesterday--some muddy lanes in the dull hills near
Chisinau--and thought again of Dartmoor, where I have strode many a mile
drinking in the stately way in which the tors drape themselves about the
horizon. Those thoughts, reinforced by your excellent website, were
almost as good as being there.
My grandfather Jack Hill was born in Peter Tavy in 1879, on Godsworthy
farm (higher or lower not specified), and used to tell the tale of a
villager who was curious about when, exactly, he fell asleep at night.
And so, he had the grandfather clock brought up to his bedroom and
placed at the foot of the bed, where its rattling and ticking and
bonging kept him awake! And, said Jack, "You never know when you fall
asleep, so how are you going to know it with a clock?" Jack would tell
other tales, found also in Chaucer--not that he could real Middle
English, or much of the modern sort either.
Have you read The Book of Peter Tavy and Cudlipptown by Dr Roger Meyrick
and others? It's worth a read if you can find a copy.
Best,
Michael
Chisinau, Moldova.
10th January 2009
As a frequent walker on the moors I found your site excellent,
informative and amusing.
Just out of interest, when recently walking at Smallacombe rocks, a
nearby walker showed me the words 'DOOM' carved into one of the flat
stones. This is now very weather worn and could hardly be seen. I have
not seen reference to this in any other source, and I suspect its origin
(? from a quarryman) has passed into myth. Are you aware of this and
able to throw any light on the mystery?
I would not have known had I not literally been sat on the stone at the
time!
Best wishes.
Andrew.
24th December 2008
Hi there, I just wanted to write and thank you for all the great work
you do with the website. I've been viewing it on and off for quite some
time now and its given me a lot of pleasure and info, particularly on
the Beardown stones which is an area I love and know well from some
memorable camping trips. I used to be a webmaster myself so I really do
know how much work is involved so well done for keeping it up to date
and free ! I'm currently looking through the section on waterfalls and
its given me loads of ideas for my photography, many of which I'd never
even heard of such as the beautiful one at Black Tor which I visited
last weekend. Seasons greetings and happy new year to you, keep up the
great work, its a fantastic site ! Best regards
Nathan.
23rd October 2008
Hi There! Just a few lines to let you know how much I appreciate your
site :-)
Although I am/was a Londoner I was evacuated to Yelverton during the
Hitler War at the age of 4 ( to a friend of my parents who were married
there - Mum was the telephone exchange lady there and Dad worked at
Cadover in the clay pits- even though he was an ex Rhondda coal miner!
).
For various reasons- none unpleasant - I was left there for 7 years and
spent my time exploring the moors as the old dear I was with /*forgot*/
to send me to school!- taking the occasional salmon/ sea trout/ trout
from the Meavy river and the Erme and selling them to the chef at the
Rock Hotel.
Had a pony and the furthest I went was Wistman's wood !
Went back for a month for the first time in 2004 and basically, apart
from the number of people on the moor, it was just as I remembered it !
Left UK in '63 to work overseas on a short contract and never went back
!!
Now retired and living in Thailand - thanks again !
Pete Joyce.
17th September 2008
Hello Tim,
When I lived in South Zeal, about 6 years ago, the little fields above
the town on the slopes of Cosdon where referred to me as "the pixie
fields" - don't think the person who told me had Devon accent (not that
that always tells you much), and she may have added "I always refer to
them as the pixie fields" - so may have been her invention - can't
remember... still, if that is true it shows places still garner these
old meanings even now.
Well done on your brilliant web site!
Best regards, Thomas.
14th September 2008
Tim, I've been an avid reader of your site for a while now -
congratulations on such an in depth and knowledgeable resource. I was
reading your page on Rippon Tor last night, and the bit about signals
being exchanged between Rippon Tor and Wells Cathedral struck a chord
with me (I trained as a surveyor, although I don't do it any more). I'm
struggling to see how this could be done, as every method I've used to
check makes it seem like the Blackdown Hills (most notably the high
ground between Dunkeswell and Smeatharpe airfields) are directly in the
way. To check this I have used Memory Map's elevation data plotted as a
long section between the two points, Google Earth's elevation data
imported into Autodesk's Civil 3D and various checks on OSBMs around
Wells. Neither DTM allows direct light transmission between the two
points. The only way I can see it being done is between Rippon Tor and
Pen Hill (the one with the transmitter), but even that seems like a
stretch. I'd love to see a cite for these signals, because something in
me really wants this to be true!
Cheers Dave.
4th June 2008
I just found your website on Legendary Dartmoor. I will be spending a
lot of time exploring it in preparation for my trip to Britain. Thanks
so much for making my homework easier for me. - Diane.
26th May 2008
Hi,
Thanks so much for the time you've taken compiling such an interesting
website!
I was really interested to read about John Trinnaman having grown up in
Ivybridge and swam often in Trinnaman's Pool in the River Erme.
All we knew of the legend of Trinnaman as kids was that he hung himself
from the tree above the boulder and that the hollow in the boulder was
supposed to be made by the blood dripping from his body and those of his
victims. We were also told that on the anniversary of his death, the
hollow in the rock would be full of blood - there were times when it
looked like it might have been from a distance but was only ever water
on close inspection!
I never knew the back story so thanks for that however I think I still
prefer my gory version of how the hollow in the rock was created to the
version with the sand - they are legends after all!
Finally more thanks for the information on your website: I'll be taking
a group walking from Okehampton to Ivybridge in June and they we're
disappointed to hear how few pubs there were en route so I've now added
the Moute's Inn to the trip. I really hope they'll understand the humour
otherwise you may be writing about a "tragedy on Whitehorse Hill"!!!
Cheers,
Graham.
23rd April 2008
Hello,
On your Maltern Way page you reference Hand Hill Cross giving it a map
ref of SX 61328 69318. However, on your Northmore Cross page you give a
reference of SX 61253 69679 accurate to 14ft. When I visited the Cross
yesterday I got a reference close enough to SX61328 69318. As you will
see from the OS 25,000 map, SX 61253 69679 places it close to the old
Tin workings.
I hope this helpful.
Thank you for all your work on this site, I have lost count of how many
times I have referred to its pages.
Regards,
Guy.
6th April 2008
What can I say????? Words are actually failing me!!!! This site is
fantastic!!!!! I have been visiting Dartmoor for several decades and,
being a pagan who is interested in myths, legends and anything ghostly,
considered my knowledge to be more than adequate. But, having spent some
time immersed in your site, I have had the pleasure of revisiting tales
that I already knew and becoming acquainted with some I didn't. My
husband and I are on Dartmoor for Samhain this year and, although I am
busy on Oct 31st itself, we will be taking the Lych walk on the 1st....
Again, can't tell you how much I am enjoying the site - I'm not normally
'gushing' and I can't usually be bothered to post comments but this time
I feel I have to.
Keep up the great work.
Blessed Be Sarah xxxx
5th March 2008
Hi Tim, couldn't work out how to post a visitor book
entry on the website. Fab site, full of funny and interesting stuff - I
look at it whenever I've got a query on Dartmoor. I'm perambulating at
the start of April, so I'm looking forward to talking to the sheep
again. I haven't been over since Christmas and I'm counting the days,
even if the sheep aren't! Best wishes and many thanks. Matthew Crocker,
Colchester.
11th February 2008
Hi Tim.
One of my personal challenges is to visit and photograph all the tors on
Dartmoor. I have used the A to Z of Dartmoor Tors by Terry Bound as a
basis for this but also have included a number of tors from Hemery to
build up a superset of the tors in the A to Z. It is proving an
interesting and long term task. I visited the Haytor Area yesterday and
one of the tors I was looking for was Dream Tor. According to the A to Z
it is in the garden of a house named Dream Tor in Haytor Vale. I visited
the house and gardens and spoke to the house owners. They said that
there is no tor, or granite stack even, in their garden, I certainly
couldn't see one, so perhaps the author of the A to Z was using a little
poetic licence in his description for this tor. I see in your list of
tors on your site you have given Dream Tor as at SX 7709 7678. This
reference also positions it in Haytor Vale but just across the road and
slightly uphill from the house named Dream Tor. Was this a result of a
visit on your part or were you also using the A to Z as a basis?
A friend of mine, who researches older Dartmoor authors and poets,
advised me that Beatrice Chase had a favourite tor near where she lived
in Widecombe, a hundred years ago, that she also named Dream Tor. It was
not the true name of the tor however. Beatrice Chase had given not only
a detailed description of views from it in one of her books ( The Heart
of the Moor 1914 pages 78 - 80 ), but had also included a photograph of
the tor in another of her books (The Dartmoor Window Again - published
1918 picture facing p 98 ) . She emailed me the relevant extracts from
the two books. From the descriptions of the views and directions I
triangulated and came to the conclusion that it could well be Wind Tor,
a tor I haven't yet photographed. My friend also suggested I might
Google to see if anything came up on the net. This brought me to your
excellent site and your references to Beatrice Chase's Dream Tor. In
your page on the author you indicate that the leading contender for
Dream Tor is indeed Wind Tor, which seemed to reinforce my triangulated
guess.
Browsing your site further I came upon an email from Janet Palmer (14th
Nov 07) regarding your page on Beatrice Chase and Dream Tor. In the
email Janet indicates that Peter Hicks, a close friend and carer for
Beatrice had told her that Beatrice's Dream Tor was in fact Top Tor, a
tor I had photographed for my own collection. Comparing the picture of
Dream Tor in Beatrice Chases book ( The Dartmoor Window Again), with one
of the pictures I took three years ago of Top Tor I can confirm that the
picture of Beatrice at her Dream Tor really was at Top Tor, luckily I
had taken a shot from the same angle as in the book. So although Wind
Tor might have been the leading contender, Top Tor is by photographic
evidence Beatrice's Dream Tor, thus confirming Janet Palmer's own
research.
If you still have Janet Palmer's email address could you please send
this email onto her as I'm sure she will be interested in the
corroborative evidence that Top Tor was Beatrice's Dream Tor.
Again congratulations on a most informative site.
Dave Pawley A Dartmoor Enthusiast.
1st February 2008
Dear Tim
I have discovered your article on Garway Church - brilliant. I have
visited the church several times and each visit reveals something
unusual. A toad (live) in the passage to the tower was rather a
surprise. Have you written on any other churches in the area?
I have been reading your article on the badger - for many years I have
been searching for badger related folklore/tales etc with little
success. The best being a reference in the Mabinogion to the game
"Badger in the sack".
I have been wanting to write small article on badger lore for our Gwent
Badger Group newsletter - a light relief from TB and badger digging.
Would it be possible to refer to lore you wrote about in your article?
Again - what a great web-site to stumble across - your "green man"
article is my next "dip into".
Best wishes
Mary - very OAP. Wish I had found your Dartmoor site in my active days!
30th January 2008
Hi Tim
With a colleague I am researching the 1240 perambulation
and walking it in stages. We did a bit of the NE section, in the general
area of the Galleven Mire, last Friday.
I think your website is great and I can understand why you are put out
about the “missing link”!
Did your list of perambulators came from Samuel Rowe’s
book? I am in the process of trying to find out more about them – Odo de
Treverbyn seems to have been the most famous and I am assuming William
Brewer was the Bishop of Exeter, but the others are a mystery still –
any further pointer welcome!
Keep up the good work!
Best wishes, Mike.
20th January 2008
Hi Tim
Many thanks for the info . What a great web site you have, I have just
spent about 3 hours just browsing it and got totally lost for time.
Thanks once again and good hunting , Nick.
5th January 2008
Congratulations on a superb website.... full of interesting history and
tales, beautifully illustrated and extremely well laid out. A treasure
trove of Dartmoor tales.
Best wishes - Ray Dafter.
2nd January 2008
Dear Mr Sandles,
I've just benn reading your site, in partucular the page about burial
chests where you say: 'One feature unique to the Dartmoor kists is that
the majority tend to have their lengths orientated on a NE/SW axis, it
is estimated that 94% of the known kists conform to this rule.
Confusingly this is the exact opposite of that stated by Worth: page
178-9, where he says 'there are eighty three Dartmoor kistvaens for
which the direction of length has been accurately ascertained . With
very few exceptions values lie between north and west (or between south
and east)
Kind regards, Tim John.
Many thanks for your email and for
pointing out my mistake with the kist orientation, it should read NW/SE
as noted by Jeremy Butler, I have amended the page accordingly.
11th December 2007.
Hi,
I would like to congratulate you on an outstanding website. I only just
discovered it today after doing a Google search for the song Tavistock
Goosey Fair. I have been singing the song in folk clubs and at festivals
around England and in the United States, where I now live, for more than
35 years. It has always been a favourite of mine since I heard Tony Rose
sing it at Sidmouth Folk Festival years ago.
I haven't yet had time to study the site in more detail, but I am
looking forward to doing so at the first opportunity. I did however do a
second search on the site for Grey Wethers. I read the legend of Grey
Wethers in a book about Dartmoor in the early '70s, and wrote a song
about it. I am attaching the words to the song to this email, and would
be delighted if you would publish it on the web site along with the
copyright information.
Thanks again for providing such a well researched and informative web
site. The World Wide Web exists for sites like this, and there are all
too few of them.
Merry Christmas and Best Wishes, Robert Williams.
4th December 2007
Hi Tim,
I’ve just been reading your web page about Keble Martin chapel and the
Blessing of our marriage in 1990. Please could you correct the name of
my husband which is Derek (not Martin!). For the record we actually met
at the Ten Commandments on Buckland Beacon on 2nd May 1988, whilst we
were both letterboxing.
We are both still letterboxing and still married! We went back out to
the Chapel on our 10th Wedding anniversary and had a short service with
Eric Carless officiating again.
Thanks for your attention for the above
Caroline Atchley and Derek Newman.
24th November 2007
Hi, Dartmoorlander:
I am writing a piece for The Field about The Last Grouse -- a roundup of
the status of the Red grouse in the outposts of this gamebird in various
parts of the British Isles -- and came across your excellent website. Do
you have any recent information to add, and can I quote you in the piece
(mentioning website)? There is a news piece about my quest for
information on the front page of fatbirder.com. Any help much
appreciated.
Regards, Yours aye,
Willy.
16th November 2007
I can’t help being annoyed at your cheap shot at the organisers of the
10 tors event. In your last paragraph you ask whether the event was
cancelled because of the liability risk or the safety risk. Do you mean
that the organisers are OK to lose a youngster as long as they are
legally covered?
I can tell you that the event remains as challenging as ever, but from
time to time the weather presents a situation where we cannot guarantee
a reasonable degree of safety in what will always be an event with a
degree of risk, and this year it was clear that the rivers were growing
at a very fast rate, so we watched them closely. There came a point
where it was clear the rivers were verging on dangerous and there was no
sign of them decreasing before the following morning, on the contrary,
things were only going to get worse. They were not safe to cross at
virtually any point, and before anyone argues that to simply move
upstream is an option before crossing, I can tell you that the upstream
crossing points were so far upstream that it is highly unlikely that
every team would have made a safe decision, and that many teams would
try to force an unsafe crossing roughly on their planned routes. As
trained soldiers, we were ourselves not happy to cross. Challenge our
decision if you like, but even you should doff your hat to the opinions
of the Dartmoor Recsue Group, and they were quite clear that the
conditions were unsafe and getting worse.
Put yourself in our shoes…you have 2500 youngsters on the moor. Many are
very determined and will let nothing get in their way to finish the
event. The rivers are dangerously deep and much wider than normal and
moving incredibly fast, and conditions are getting worse. Every one of
the youngsters is on the south of the moor and the rivers are between
them and the finish. The army and the DRG agree that the rivers are
unsafe to cross. At what point do you say ‘that’s enough’? We think that
point was reached. And river conditions on that Saturday were the worst
on the moor all year, much worse than earlier in the year to which you
refer. The team leaders from across the country agreed almost to a man
(and woman) that the right decision had been made. In short, everyone
there that weekend agreed the right decision was made – except of course
for the very disappointed kids.
Those of us involved in adventure training know the difference between
acceptable risk and stupidity, and you should not confuse the issue by
asking, as you do, whether we are merely concerned for our reputations
and liability, rather than the overriding importance of bringing every
youngster home safely.
Sir – it’s a couple of sentences that offend in an otherwise excellent
article and superb site. I would be grateful if you would rephrase.
I am happy to contribute an insight if you wish, and to discuss the
issue further.
Richard Frampton Hobbs
Dorset.
15th November 2007
Hi Tim,
Many thanks for getting back so soon. I walked up to Chaw Gully from
Challacombe Farm this morning, it was amazing. A round trip of two hours
and fascinating history of mining on the way. Busy putting together a
play and have found your website a terrific source of information - much
appreciated.
Thanks again,
Best wishes,
Vanessa.
14th November 2007
Dear Tim,
My name is Janet Palmer - I am a letterboxer and we have met (once I
think) at the Meet a couple of years ago. My husband Os is a
photographer and for some years we wrote about Dartmoor for the local
magazines. We also wrote Let's go Letterboxing - A Beginner's Guide and
Dartmoor Cameos. I have today dipped once more into your excellent
website and I would like your permission to include the name of your
website in a little book I am writing for Alan Brunton (Orchard
Publications) on a few of the Dartmoor Tors. It is a book solely for the
tourists/visitors naming tors from the major roads and others they can
see from short diversions such as onto High Down etc - nothing
definitive or academic - just to fill a gap in his market.
While I'm mailing: your page on Beatrice Chase contains a reference to
Dream Tor. One of the characters in my book, Dartmoor Cameos, was Peter
Hicks who, as a young man, looked after her in her final years. His
father was tenant of Venton Farm which Beatrice left to Peter in her
Will and they eventually purchased the cottages and Venton House. He
told me during our interviews that he was sure Dream Tor was Top Tor,
although I too originally thought it was Wind Tor.
Hope you are well,
Best wishes
Jan Palmer.
14th November 2007
Hi there,
Thanks for a great source of information on Dartmoor - really
interesting. Please could you let me know about a reference in the
section called "Chaw Gully". There is a reference here to "Gert's
floor". Could you let me know what that means?
Many thanks
Vanessa M.
11th November 2007
Hi,
I’ve been looking at your website and it’s looking good! It must take a
lot of time to develop and I look forward to seeing it progress.
Regards, Liz.
10th November 2007
I am reading Phil Rickman's latest book and Garway Church is in the
story, the pictures on your site are truly wonderful and i now have the
church firmly set in my mind, so thank you, i can now see clearly what
the characters in the book are looking at.
4th November 2007
Hi,
I read in a book years ago about some cottages near (or in) Chagford
that only appeared every ten to twelve years. Apparently people have
been inside the cottages and have spoken to the people living in them I
haven't been able to find anything else about this - have you come
across this? The book was about strange happenings around the world
published by Paragon (I think).
If you have heard this or know the origins of this story could you
please let me know.
Many thanks,
Joanne.
2nd November 2007
Hi, I'm a student at Dartington College of Arts and i am trying to find
some info on this play - William Crossing and Florence Eaton's theatre
play 'Triumph'. I have tried Plymouth Library and the internet.
Can you help
Best -
V. Shearer.
2nd November 2007
I have in my possession a copy of "Tales of the Dartmoor Pixies" dated
1890. It is inscribed Miss Johnson, with the author’s kind regards. Does
anyone know who Miss Johnson was, and what was her relationship to Mr
Crossing ? Look forward to your reply.
Regards,Tony Larkham.
2nd November 2007
Thanks for your work on the web site. I came across it as I have a
family interest. One of my ancestors was Richard Nicholls who at one
time was the Police Superintendent at Tavistock and as such I understand
he was in charge of the Police enquiry into the Peter Tavy murders. Did
Richard pop up in your research into the murders? and if he did can you
point me in the direction of any research I could continue with into his
part in the investigation.
Yours in anticipation
Andrew Palmer.
2nd November 2007
Dear Sir:
I just found your website and will stop back later for a deeper look. I
was looking up the word "droke" and could find it nowhere but when I put
it in alliance with "gully" your site immediately came up! Now, I'm
happy about this because my family is said to be from Devonshire
originally. We live in Northern Newfoundland and still use some of these
words. My grandfather once (he's passed on) and my family back there now
still keep sheep and have been keeping sheep for probably as long as
we've been there, probably a couple of centuries. And we are surrounded
by lakes, wilderness and marshes, just as you seem to be there in
Dartmoor. Someday I'd like to get there to visit. It would be
interesting to hear the local vernacular and dialect. We have a lot of
words that appear to be "olde English", as it were. They still keep
November 5th as "Bonfire" or "Guy Fawkes" night back home. Have you ever
heard the word "vir" as applied to a fir tree, because many back home
pronounce it that way. Anyway, would be great if you could post this in
your visitor book. Take care, and thanks for the great reading. Its
really intriguing!
Chris Cull, Martha's Vineyard (formerly of Great Brehat, Newfoundland).
24th October 2007
Hi,
I have to say, your site really is a good read! I've just been reading
your latest page and there seems to be a section regarding a strange
morning ritual, see below,
"The next morning the farmer inspected his bollocks,
needless to say they were no better and even worse his plough horse had
also been taken ill by some mysterious disease. Enough was enough, the
farmer admitted defeat and took himself off to consult with the white
witch of the village"
Is this some strange fertility ritual known only to the
cognoscenti resident on the moor? Is it something we should all be
doing? Should I invest in a plough horse? There's still so much to
learn...
Cheers,
Bob
Thanks for spotting the typo which has been duely
amended, although, the original version is only following recent health
guidelines. If you do get a plough horse I would suggest a mare as
having to inspect a stallion's bullocks could prove difficult.
18th October 2007
Hello,
A quick message to say thank you for all the hard work you've put into
the Legendary Dartmoor web-site, I read it regularly, please keep up the
great work.
Ben.
17th October 2007
Dear Tim,
Many thanks. I shall certainly consider your kind offer
about the photographs. When an Editor needs to fill space he either
needs good words – or good photos! I will be leaving a message in your Visitors Book to
congratulate you on a superb and very user-friendly website but thought
I should say that now! It really is the best I have encountered and
that’s after trawling the internet many times for information on various
subjects for our Magazine and other matters.
Best regards,
Bob Dibben.
17th October 2007
Dear Sirs,
I am the Editor of the Church Magazine for St Mary’s,
Boston Spa, West Yorkshire.
Having featured in our Magazine photos of various
churches observed while on holiday, including Harberton Church, I was
asked by one of our parishioners whether I knew of a clock in Devon with
the lettering “My Dear Mother” in place of the more usual Roman
numerals? I did not. However, via the local Library and then the
inevitable Internet Searches I eventually found your truly excellent
website and this completed some of the key detail missing from other
reference places I had read or searched.
As it happened, your featured photo of the Clock
mechanism in Buckland brought immediately to mind my own examination of
our clock mechanism and the similarity was, to coin a phrase “striking”.
In fact both clocks were made by the same company, ours being older and
by Potts of Leeds which is of course part of the Smith of Derby Group.
We have an electric mechanism which turns the cogs, the weights having
been discarded when ‘electrification’ took place.
I would very much like to quote in our Magazine a couple
of details from your website (no photos will be used) and to acknowledge
same in the article when published.
Thus, having given you the background, I request your
permission to do so and hope that this will receive your early
favourable response.
Yours faithfully, Bob Dibben,
Editor.
9th October 2007
I have just had a look at your excellent website. I am especially
interested in dartmoor ponies.. My brother has a cottage on dartmoor not
far from Postbridge and I often stay there and go for walks and see the
ponies. I love these animals. I have some videos of them on Youtube -
they are nothing special but some of them have rec'd over a 1000 hits.
In your section on the ponies there is a link to The
dartmoor Pony Training Centre but it does not work - how can I get to
their website?
Also I have joined a charity which is helping to conserve the native
dartmoor pony which is now on the official list of endangered species. I
also belong to social websites such as Myspace and facebook where I
often mention and promote dartmoor ponies. I think it is important that
this type of pony is preserved. One problem that I have is regarding the
ponies being turned into pet food. People say that ' how can the pony be
turned into pet food if they are in danger of extinction '. Do you know
what the situation is regarding this? Are ponies still being sold for
pet food?
If you have time then please answer my questions but if you are too busy
then not to worry.
All the best,
Pete.
21st September 2007
HI
Lived in Devon all my life. Just discovered Dartmoor can you believe it!
Thought it was just Becky falls, Haytor etc. nice drive on a sunny
Sunday to show the kids I have just started walking it with passion and
loving even minute.
However I am interested in your reference to my name "Luxton Tor" is
there one? if so where... being a Luxton I need to look knowledgeable to
the rest of the family you understand .... can you help?
Stuart Luxton -
Love the site use it for regular reference ... cheers.
13th September 2007
It was nice to read the story and see photos of Jolly Cot. I have a
photo of this cottage I am pretty sure, that was sent to my great
grandmother in America with a note "do you remember this?" From time to
time I have tried to find any reference to it. THANKS!
Sue Ellen Ash in Kansas where my great grandmother settled in later
years.
August 31st 2007
Hi there,
I would like to congratulate you on a superb website, I have just ended
up "glued" to it after searching info relating to C E Brittan the
artist. Being an ex Letterbox addict 1976-1985 (now in rehab but
suffering periodic yearnings to spend the day looking under rocks and
peat banks) I am still very interested and attached to the moors. This
weekend whilst fiddling about in my mum's attic I came across a very old
print of "the Walkham valley" by C E Brittan. I am about to clean it up
and wondered if you would like a copy of it for your page? Its a lovely
view with Gt Mis in the background.I reckon its been in that attic for
70 years or so.
Now I think of it I may of visited your site in the past, looking for
info on the liberator crash site, as a colleague at work asked me if I
knew of the site in the Okement valley after failing to find it himself.
I could remember being there in the early 80s as there was a letterbox
nearby, stating USAF Liberator crash site. So earlier this year I took
him there and successfully located it, "engine an all". The point to
this entry is that the latest dartmoor mag has an article in it about a
Wellington bomber and has a photo of what I thought was a liberator? Do
you know if there was a Liberator and wellington crash in the same area
and what came down at Tigers Marsh? my colleague wants me to take him
there next! thanks.
Finally the visitor who was describing what I know of as the Turks head
was a few miles out.. this site was always a closely kept secret during
the 80s, and in fact the last time I was there, there had certainly been
some serious damage to its nose... Don't know if this is still the case?
best regards.
Dave Johnson,
Broadway, Somerset.
August 29th 2007
Hello Dartmoorlander,
Thanks for mentioning my book Dartmoor Sun on your wonderful website.
There is so much to be discovered on Dartmoor. Just to be able to stand
and gaze in wonder and let the ancient monuments tell their story is a
great privilege.
Best wishes to all who love and conserve the moor,
Jack (Walker).
August 20th 2007
Hi Tim,
Many thanks for your superb website; it's always refreshing to have
something new to go and find, or find out about!
On this subject, I wonder if you or any visitors to your site could help
me with an itch! I've been trying to find the Fairey Battle crash site
on Lower White for ages. So far I've found a few letterboxes, but not
the one near the site. Any help would be appreciated before I go mad!
All the best,
Paul Fox.
August 15th 2007
Hi,
I have visited your website and have thoroughly enjoyed its pages, I
have just moved to Devon and want to start walking on Dartmoor. Having
read all about the mists, bogs and streams I am concerned as to what I
should carry on a days walk for my safety. Could you please give me a
list of the basic items for such a walk.
Regards,
Kerry.
August 13th 2007
Hi Tim
I see in your visitors book someone was wanting a grid reference for the
Indian head. I'm sure you know its grid by your latest page but here is
the GPS incase you wanted it or to pass it onto your reader 57251 71310.
Regards,
Andy.
Many thanks for the GPS co-ordinates, I have added them
to the relevant page.
August 12th 2007
Hi Dartmoorlander,
As an avid reader of your site I have a question and I'm sure you will
be able to help me. I was sat in the Warren House Inn last evening
talking "Dartmoor" with some friends and was asked where the "Indians
Head" was. I had no idea but apparently it is somewhere in the valley
below the Inn and possibly along a leat. It is a set into the wall and
resembles an Indians Head. Maybe it isn't an Indian and I have been
searching your site this morning but probably haven't entered the
correct search terms.
If you can help me and give me an approx grid reference I would be very
grateful, I "need" to go and see it for myself! The person I was talking
to had only been told about it from a friend so only knew of the rough
area and it's quite a big area to go looking blind. If you have any
information on it on your site, please would you provide the link to the
correct page.
Many thanks for any help "AND" such a great site, I love reading it.
Steve.
August 10th 2007
Tim,
I wondered if you'd mind me pinching part of your Ordulph illustration
for one of my homebrew labels (as attached)? They are not for sale, so I
won't make any money out of it, it's just a bit of fun. I could put an
acknowledgement on somewhere, but my favoured option would be to feature
the label on my site, in which case I could link directly to yours.
Finally, many thanks for the inspiring folklore and congratulations on
an excellent site.
Much Appreciated,
Crispin.
August 8th 2007
Dear Tim
I have included a link to your website in our links page. I think that
your website is most informative.
best wishes
Bryan Kell -
Secretary Newton Abbot Ramblers.
July 24th 2007
Hi,
My name is Steve Trigger, may I first start off by saying what an
excellent web site, well done, very interesting indeed! I spent my child
hood in Okehampton and now live here in Ontario Canada.
The reason for my e-mail is that I wasn't sure if you were interested in
things that happened on the Moor during the last war, or is it too
recent? I have a story that is about an RAF plane that crashed on the
moor and my grand father was involved in the rescue of the crew. I do
believe the story is already on the web but if I can be of any further
assistance, please do not hesitate to let me know.
Thanks, once again, brilliant site!!
Regards -
Steve.
14th July 2007
Hello -
I have have a wonderful time on your website. I am fascinated by
Dartmoor, and your work is very engaging and informative. Thank you!
I noticed that you have collected place names for the Dartmoor area. I
am researching family ancestry for Daniel Wadelsten who lived in
Berwick, Maine, USA in the mid 1600's. I believe he may have originated
at Waddlestone, Lew Trenchard, Devon.
In the book, Family Names and Their Story, Sabine Baring-Gould noted
that he lived in a manor house that was called Waddlestone in the
Domesday book. It is now the Lewtrenchard Manor House.
In trying to figure out the name of this place, I have wondered about an
interpretation of Waddlestone that might mean "field of stones" with
significant and monumental stones being suggested in various name
dictionaries.
You seem to have a wonderful familiarity with the place, and I see that
you have collected a great deal of knowledge about the area. I am
curious if you have any insights in to this place name - particularly if
there are any significant stones in the immediate vicinity of the
ancient Waddlestone.
Thank you so much for any thoughts that you might share. Your website
(and my research) has convinced me to plan a trip!
Good wishes -
Carrie.
6th July 2007
Hi I manage a large archive devoted to the Stirling Bomber and have
visited your site to find some information on the Stirling crash at
Cornwood. While conducting a search it came to my notice that you have
no reference to another Stirling crash at Lee Moor and have attached a
brief summary of the aircraft details and the crew who all perished.
Crash details of Stirling LK499 1653 Conversion Unit.
The Stirling and crew were on a training exercise when control was lost
followed by structural failure at the rear of the fuselage due to the
imposition of heavy loads. The site is 1½ miles East of Cadover Bridge,
Lee Moor, Devon. All the crew were killed. This Stirling had previously
been attached to 149 Squadron flying 16 Ops.
Crew:
F/O N.H. MacDonald. Pilot. RCAF. Age 25. From Fort William, Ontario,
Canada. Buried Brookwood Military Cemetery. Grave 55.B.4.
F/O S.K. McGuigan. Nav. RCAF. Age 23. Married to Christel
McGuigan of Toronto, Canada.
F/O R.W. Murphy. B/A. RAFVR. Married to K.Murphy. No
further details available. Remembered on the Runnymede memorial Panel
208.
Sgt G.J. Canham. W/Op. RAFVR. Age 22. Married to Alice
Canham of Muswell Hill, London. Buried Chadwell Heath Cemetery,
Dagenham, London. Sec. L. Grave 2008.
Sgt L.W. Bowd. A/G. RAFVR. Age 20. From Ramsy. Buried
Ramsey Cemetery. Plot P. Grave 56.
Sgt G.F. Bennett. A/G. RAFVR. Age 19. From Market
Drayton. Buried in the South East corner of Christ Church Churchyard,
Little Drayton.
Sgt T.W. Hunter. F/Eng. RAFVR. No further details
available. Buried Cambusnethan Cemetery. Sec. D. Grave 555.
I would be most interested if any evidence of the crash
is found at the site and also of news of any archaeological dig proposed
in the future.
Kind regards,
John Reid -
Archivist - Photographic Librarian -
Stirling Bomber Research Library.
29th June 2007
Just a quick note to thank you for the page on William Crossing at
http://www.legendarydartmoor.co.uk/will-cross.htm . It seems there were
several related Crossing families in Brent around that time and before
but they have long since moved (mainly to Australia and the USA, I
believe). I found your page while researching my family and will record
it, along with other details on the Crossings in Devon.
Kind regards,
Jock Crossing, Sydney, Australia.
31st May 2007
Greetings
Just to let you know that we Bath/Bathe/de Bathes are still around and
I, personally, haven't been bothered by the Pixies for quite some time.
Both the English and Irish families claim the origin of their surname
from the Bathe Pool and the lands that surround it. The "Sir Henry"
mentioned in the legend is likely that of Sir Henry de
Baa/Bathonia/Bathe who became a senior justice of the King's Bench under
Henry III and died in 1261. His tomb monument is in Christchurch
Cathedral, Oxford. His brother, Walter, became High Sheriff of Devon
from 1236-1251, an unusually long shrievality, doubtless due to the
influence of his brother. A Hugo de Bathe is claimed as the progenitor
of the Irish family of the same name, having won grants of land, in
Dublin and Meath, for his services during the Anglo-Norman invasion of
Ireland (1169-1172). He's claimed, by his descendants, to having been
related to Walter and Henry.
The legend errs in saying that the Bathe Pool was destroyed. It's still
in existence and when it occasionally fills is still claimed to have the
power to foretell the demise of some notable personage. Unfortunately,
I'm told that the locals were very disappointed that it did not fill
before Diana's tragic death. So much for legends, but then again, my
family legend claims that it's supposed to foretell misfortune for a
member of the Bath/Bathe family, so perhaps it's still working its
magic.
The image of the pool on your site is not at all accurate, but certainly
adds atmosphere to the story. In reality it's a circular sinkhole, about
12-15 feet deep and approx. 40 feet across, laying in a field near the
river Taw .(I won't mention the name of the town as the current
proprietors don't care for unwelcome visitors.). As it occasionally
fills, even during dry seasons, probably from a hidden underground
stream, it must have appeared to the early Saxons inhabitants as a bath;
hence the name. I've read that archaeologists have found evidence of
Druid activities in the immediate area, doubtless drawn by the
mysterious comings and goings of the water.
You've an enjoyable web site. Lots of fun!
Michael Bath (Canada).
28th May 2007
Having read your chapter on William Crossing, I have to say how pleased
I am that you appreciate such a fine person. I have been to his grave on
occasions and wished he could be stood next to me so that I could listen
to what he has to say. I find him so fascinating and my impression is
that he was a wonderful man. Although I now live in Norfolk I will be in
Lydford this week at Heathergate, and I will make another trip to Mr
Crossing. I talk to Lionel Gloyn at Lydford, He is 90 now, and I sit
with him for hours to listen about the old ways of the moor. One day he
will be gone and all he knows will go with him. Maybe he should record
but years are catching him up.
Thanks for letting me get this off my chest.
Ray Coppin.
24th April 2007
This is a wonderful website, I’m glad I found it. Lots and lots of
reading stuff. I visit Dartmoor every year and cannot get enough of it.
Now with this website I can really prepare my visit. “You only see what
you know” – that’s what my arts teacher told me. I will work my way
through your texts and be back with you.
Kind regards
Waltraud M. Gasch (Willstätt, Germany).
18th April 2007
Dear Mr. Sandles,
I just came across your "Legendary Dartmoor" website (through a
reference in a Plymouth newspaper, which I found through Lexis-Nexis)
and I must compliment you on it. It is both thorough and beautiful, a
great labour of love on your part, obviously.
I just posted a link to your site to a Sherlock Holmes listserv I am on
(The Hounds of the Internet) so you should expect a flurry of hits today
and tomorrow.
With admiration, ~ Karen Murdock.
14th April 2007
Dear Dartmoorlander,
There are many set stones on Dartmoor that I believe were erected by the
early tin traders to mark routes to various destinations which were
mainly coastal and estuary havens. I have been locating and recording
these for some years both on and off the moor. Some of these stones,
which are not always obvious have been removed by land owners since I
began to look for them. If they were part of a complex network of routes
by which tin was exported to the bronze smiths of Europe and the Middle
East, it is urgent that they should be located, recorded and conserved.
I need help with this work. Do you know of anyone with the time and
interest that could be of assistance.
Best wishes Roger
B Hutchins.
11th April 2007
Dear Sir,
I came across your site and read with a great interest. I have been
interested in Dartmoor since my first visit in '70.
I am wondering if you would allow me to translate some of them,
particularly stories from "Dartmoor pixies" and "Dartmoor witchcraft" to
introduce in Japanese?
Because of my poor English, it would take time to put it in shape but I
am hoping to make a website about "Pixies and witchcraft in Dartmoor" in
Japanese. Of course I will make it clear that the original website (your
site) that I use the stories.
Looking forward to hear from you of your favourable reply.
Sincerely,
Hongo Hiromi.
6th April 2007
Dear Tim
Having seen your excellent description of Hound Tor I decided to make a
detour and go there last Sunday with my wife. I'm afraid we couldn't
wait for a crisp Autumn day.
The place is fascinating, and your description and plans of the layout
of the village and each building were extremely helpful. Altho' the
context is quite different the village reminded me of the medieval
village of Cosmeston, just outside Cardiff, which, as you may know, has
been reconstructed and attracts many visitors and re-enactment groups.
I have a general interest in abandoned communities. We were in fact on
our way to South Devon to visit the village of Hallsands. Having been
there, taken photos, and obtained a lot of information, I will now write
it up on my website (at www.abandonedcommunities.co.uk). I do not,
however, intend to add a section on Hound Tor as it would be difficult
to improve on what you have already done.
With best wishes,
Stephen Fisk.
25th March 2007
Hi Tim,
I like your forbidden tor page on your site, thanks for the link to us
most appreciated. I visited the letterboxers Spring meeting today and
got some encouragement from participants. Unfortunately Vixen Tor has
never had a stamp because it's enclosed and therefore outside their
rules of access. Nonetheless people had certainly visited it over the
years.
I don't wish to appear pedantic but I noticed a few small errors in your
forbidden tor entry. The January 2005 enquiry classed the land around
the tor as farmland not moorland. They did this on the basis of grass
percentage of the total flora. The inspectors noted it was a finely
balanced decision but nonetheless once made meant the land was no longer
classified as open access and could be closed.
Also it's strictly against the ethics of climbing in this country to use
pitons or bolts on rock as it disfigures it and makes climbing easy.
It's something our European friends do but not Brits (unless it's a man
made quarry where you will sometimes see it).
Best wishes,
Jim.
24th March 2007
Congratulation on your fine web site.
I wonder if you could please give me the reference of the Account Book
in the Record Office mentioning pastys!
All the best.
Mike.
21st March 2007
I
Loved the site. Went to school for a short time in Widdecombe in about
1946 and here in Canada I remember it fondly. Thanks for the picture and
stories. What about High Tor. Will keep watching
Pamela M. Lage.
12th March 2007
Brilliant!!, well done.
After a discussion with my wife about black pudding (she's from
Yorkshire but no one is perfect) I decided to look for information about
Hogs Pudding ( a favourite of mine, my grandparents used to live in
Crediton), I came upon your website and spent at least an hour chuckling
under my breath.
Splendid work, keep it up.
An 'ampshire 'og with Devonshire connections.
8th March 2007
Just to say how much I enjoy visiting your website. It is easy to use,
informative and extremely well laid out. Thanks for your time and effort
Jim Bain.
27th February 2007
Hello,
I am a student at the University of Exeter and I am working on
developing a website having to do with writers who wrote literature
about the southwest of England. Specifically, I am focusing on Eden
Phillpotts' Dartmoor Cycle and I came across your website in searching
on Widecombe Fair and Widecombe-in-the-Moor in conjunction with old
customs, traditions and folklore. In looking at the extensive list of
further reading you have provided I was quite happy to see much of the
scholarly material that I have come across in my own research. I would
love to provide a link to your website on one of my pages, but I wanted
to ask about the provenance of the information that you have provided. I
think that a link to your website would be a wonderful addition to my
own research, so please let me know what you think.
Sincerely,
Andi Paul.
Provenance, Provenance - cheap as chips, but I am,
"happy", that you too have come across the same scholarly material in
your research.
7th February 2007
Dear Dartmoorlander,
I've just discovered your site. We used to live on the moor for about 5
years and it was such a wonderful period.
It's lovely to see someone else who loves it as much as we do, we're
coming down to stay in Throwleigh again in March and can't wait.
Loved to read the Hairy Hands story, I well remember one foggy evening
travelling towards Plymouth. My husband nearly jumped out of his skin
when he felt the Hairy Hands around his neck - OK, I give in, it was me
- but it was fun......
Once again, wonderful site, thank you.
LR.
3rd February 2007
Hi, Thank you so much for your site. I came across it quite by accident
when looking for Rival Tor and trying to find out if it had ever been
called Rippon Tor. My friend and I walked up to Rival Tor last week and
in the book I use to plan walks, it was also called Rippon Tor. I have a
fairly old ordinance survey map and it is called Rippon Tor on that but
also called Ripper Tor on a more modern one, I know there is a Rippon
Tor near Haytor, so I am totally confused! Also, there are many stone
circles in Fernworthy and they appear to have been catalogued at some
time and have numbered posts planted in front. Is there a published list
anywhere about them? I was a very keen letter boxer in the 80's, stopped
for a long time and have just taken it up again. My enthusiasm has
returned with a vengeance and I know I will find your site a great help,
thank you again.
Mary.
30th January 2007
Hi, I have just been on your website and I think its brilliant. I am
planning on doing the Ten Tors this year and practising with my school
team. Already and I'm enjoying it so much and the views are just
brilliant. Do you have any tips for me to keep carrying on. Write back.
Chantelle.
24th January 2007
Hello, really like your website so just a quickie, am besotted with
Harford bridge campsite you can drive in park up and not touch the car
for two weeks. Oh, and Peter Tavy inn is not what it used to be! Again
fantastic website keep it up .
regards,
Lee.
22nd January 2007
Hi...i've just been onto your website and just wanted to let you know
that I thought it was excellent. I've been walking the moor for over 20
years now and it's nice to hear from someone who loves it as much as I
do. I was last down on the 26th of December. I wanted to do 10 days down
there but the winds forced me off after 5 days. I'm down again on the
9th of Feb for 10 days and really can't wait. I tend not to use camp
sites as there's the whole of the moor for that!
I was really sorry to hear about your dog and the stile....things like
that infuriate me and what these farmers don't realise is that without
tourism there industry would not survive.
Anyway, like I said, it was really good to see someone in love with the
moor as much, if not more, than I am.
Take care.
Paul Derrick.
7th January 2007
Brilliant site - my father was from Whitchurch Tavistock and he loved
dartmoor. I know he would have loved reading your stories. keep up the
good work...
regards
P Toye,
Harrogate, North Yorks.
2nd January 2007
Dear Dartmoorkeeper -- I have just begun using this extraordinary site,
and will enjoy returning to it often. I visited Wistman's Wood and
several nearby tors in 1976 while heading over to the Ilfracombe area
where my paternal Great Grandparents William Jones and Ann Tucker were
born before immigrating to Ontario, Canada. Also my mother's people were
the Quaker Mendenhall's of Marridge Hill, Somerset who came to
Philadelphia in the 1640s, so my druid ears hear many voices on
Dartmoor.
Thank you for your loving care of legendary dartmoor,
Grant Richard Jones.
1st January 2007
Wishing you a very happy and healthy 2007 and a big thank you for
producing such a great Web Site. It is a pleasure to behold and a fount
of information. Keep up the good work. I believe it is important to
learn a thing a day.
Pat Read. aka Jemima!
28th December 2006
Congratulations on a fantastic site - a real eye-opener to all aspects
of Dartmoor and the wonderful history of the magical place and the folks
who live and have lived there. The time you spend getting a wealth of
knowledge with a variation of puzzles and recreation amazes me. Well
done and here's hoping you had a peaceful Christmas and with the very
best of wishes for 2007.
Di.
26th December 2006
Sirs,
Thank you for your reply to the e-mail sent by my son Trevor. The
wording of my son's e-mail is rather abrupt and might be taken as being
rude, which I am afraid is his normal big headed manner. As he is now
37yrs old and lives in France I'm afraid there is nothing I can do about
it. He's bigger than me anyway.
As long as you don't think badly of me (Peter Smith) personally I'll
wish you all a Happy New Year and see you when the sun shines a bit more
often.
Regards,
Peter Smith.
25th December 2006 - 10.55.59 pm
Get your facts right and/or learn to read a map; the Warren House Inn is
at 427m.
P. J. Smith (??).
What charm school did you come from?
Looks like you had a lonely Christmas - I know the Warren
House Inn is at a height of 427m it says so on the OS map and also here:
http://legendarydartmoor.co.uk/remote_inn.htm If there is another
reference then it's a typo - in which case I can only profusely
apologise. Amazing the rest of the world didn't notice it at one minute
to eleven on Christmas Night - probably all too busy enjoying
themselves.
22nd December 2006
I discovered your website few months ago and I find it fantastic, funny,
very interesting and such hard work it gives me the desire to visit the
Dartmoor which I intend to do next year. I just wanted to wish you merry
Christmas, have a great time and the best for the new year.
Berangere ( a French from Scotland).
15th December 2006
Hello,
I just happened upon your site via googling the term "wassailing" and
read the "Cyderedup" piece.
I wonder if the purveyors of Dartmoor Looney Juice have expanded into
the Swedish market - I have seen similar situations arise in the south
of Sweden in the summertime, only the wassacks are generally 4x4 driving
Bavarian tourists rather than 4x4 driving Yorkshire folk.
Nice site - Jared Brown.
20th November 2006
Hello Dartmoorlander,
I found your excellent website and hope you can help me. Attached is a
photo I took a few years ago of my wife and sister-in-law on Dartmoor, I
believe it is at North Hessary Tor. I have recently bought a 35mm film
scanner and am slowly digitising my old negatives. When I scanned this
one we noticed a very clear face in the rocks which I have highlighted
on the photo. It looks rather like a Neanderthal man to me. Is this a
known feature on the moor ? I can send a higher resolution photo if you
wish.
Thanks and regards,
Neil Beattie.
20th November 2006
Hi there! Having been an evacuee to my Granny's farm in Meavy and
spending my formative years wandering the moors I love the place - and
your site !
Just a not critical comment but - you have a typo error in the
Carrington page It would appear that he died 47 years before he was born
?
All the best Pete Joyce - in Thailand!
Said he was a remarkable man - many thanks for pointing
out the error, now fixed.
17th November 2006
Hi
Just emailing about your website and how interesting it is! i've been
there a few times with scouts and ten tors e.t.c but read some stuff on
your site i've never even heard of:)
Thanks and keep up the good work:)
Mike Brookes.
15th November 2006
Hello
Thanks for one of the best sites of Dartmoor on the web. Just to let you
know HF holidays will be leading walks along the East Dart passing
Snaily House (site of) and I, as the Field officer for Moorlands Hotel
(Haytor) am devising the new route through the dreaded gorse, Over 2
weekend trips I have now re opened up a good clear route thro having
snapped 1 pair of secateurs.
Best Wishes,
Pete.
7th October 2006
Just a quick note to say that I just stumbled across your website, while
Googling the Virtuous Lady Mine. Very impressive!
Best wishes, Ian (Acworth).
27th September 2006
I know you believe Dartmoor to be a mysterious place but you have no
idea how far that influence reaches. I live in Highland Perthshire and
on my marriage, in 1968 I received from my in-laws a watercolour which
they had received on their wedding day in the 1940s.
It was purchased in an art shop in Perth, one of a pair (the other was
damaged) it was titled On the Moors and was painted by Edward Neatby. My
in-laws always assumed it depicted an inn in Perthshire. This picture
hung in our living room in three different houses and I always loved it
and the way that the road seemed to draw you over the hill. It was
joined by its companion in 1985 when my husband had that one reframed
.As I hung this second picture on the wall I realised that what everyone
had assumed was a clump of trees on the horizon was in fact the inn
viewed from the other side of the hill and as I had then just returned
from hospital after an operation to remove a cancerous growth to me the
view from the other side of the hill was highly significant.
Ten years later on a bus trip to the Plymouth area you can imagine the
shock I felt to find myself inside this picture travelling up the hill
towards the inn. My husband was horrified as I rushed to the back of the
bus in time to see "my" inn disappear into the distance .Needless to say
he didn't believe me when I told him what I had just seen. Fate wasn't
finished with me that day however. We stopped for tea at a place
called-- I think Princetown and in the gift shop there I saw a book of
sketches by Richard Blackmore now Im not interested in sketches nor had
I any intention of buying the book when I idly flicked a page and there
it was Warren House Inn. I bought the book and showed my husband but he
still was sceptical until this week when I found your website .My
picture although more colourful than yours could have been painted on
the same day Neatby has left out the cars and added a small building to
the gable end which actually could have been painted out of yours. Could
you please tell me the date and artist of your painting? Some day before
I'm too old I must return to Dartmoor and visit the Warren house Inn
perhaps to get my picture taken beside it.
June McRobert.
17th September 2006
Just found your web site-congratulations on a brilliant effort. As an
ex-letterboxer I found some very interesting bits and pieces that I
intend to look at in more detail when time allows. I don't want to
appear "picky" - but just one small addition - perhaps you could
accredit The Wild Woodman for the Mount Misery rubber cut - I was
talking to him this morning and he still has the original in his loft! I
well remember the "Cut Hill Mafia" and the battles he had with The
Gaffer to see who could do the smallest copy of each others stamps!
Best wishes, John.
24th August 2006
Hi, just thought I'd drop a quick email . . . wow, really nice to see a
'different' site regarding the moors. Even as a kid i have always been
fascinated by two different things ; 1- the supernatural. 2- expanses of
open land. so i have spent quite a while reading through the different
articles on your web-site, especially folklore/ghosts.
My real passion is for camping, and every bank holiday my friends and I
can be found traipsing about in search of a new place to pitch for the
night. I really don't think there are many places we have not been
(although really im sure there are !)
postbridge is normally our starting point, for a quick pint in the hotel
and a glance across the map. ( i have yet to experience the 'hairy
hands' ) and then off into the middle of nowhere for a day or two. as i
manage a mobile phone shop it is pure tranquillity to turn the damn
thing off for a couple days and get 'back to basics', anyway I'm
waffling so I'll stop ! keep up the good work !
James.
24th August 2006
I like and use your Dartmoor website. However I noticed a silly mistake:
The Legend of the Danish Camp. 1st paragraph, 24th line: "Now these
women were silly, they knew that the men folk were planning ..." Did you
mean to say NOT silly or SLY? By "men folk" do you mean simply men?
Regards,
Nick.
24th August 2006
Just visited your site through a Google search and what a site it is!
I'm an avid Dartmoor hiker/letterboxer and I just want to say what a
pleasure it is! I'm also a web designer hoping to become a Professional
Webmaster in a couple of years (long course!). Your layout, information,
colours and interactivity is outstanding! If I can ever produce
something half as good one day then I will be more than happy! I
understand how much hard work goes into designing and maintaining a web
site and can obviously see the amount of time, energy and research you
have done to provide all of us with a mass of information.
A big well done!
Paul (Dizzy).
23rd August 2006
Just had a nose through your web site - Brilliant!
I lived in Okehampton for the first 19 years of my life and I did a lot
of walking over the moors in my teenage years. 1960's onwards.
Crossing's Guide was always being borrowed from the library. I think
you've made a slight mistake with your Pin Tor GR - 755 887 is the
approx 6 fig version, yours is west of Lydford Tor!
Thanks for a great web site - I'll have an in-depth look when I've got
more time.
Richard.
22nd August 2006
I am a regular walker on the moor, and had never heard of Trellech – the
location of the Virtuous Well. I presumed that, as I live in Cornwall
and rarely visit the eastern side other than when back-packing, that it
must be there. I checked the map reference which I found to be nowhere
near Dartmoor, then performed an internet search, only to find Trellech
in south Wales!
Still, thanks for a very informative site.
Regards, Phil.
19th August 2006
Caw. I never knawed about this yer. Proper job. You kep'en a purtty good
secret, ab'n ee?
Jane Stewer.
9th August 2006
Hello,
I was just reading with great interest the wonderful stories on your
website and decided to read the items of Dartmoor news and witchcraft. I
have been visiting Dartmoor since i was a child and it is my favourite
place in the country. I was very distressed to read about the killing of
animals on the moor and even more so to read that people still associate
such cruel acts with pagans. Usually these acts are committed by
confused individuals who have read a few occult books and are on some
sort of power trip. Of course there are good and bad pagans, but usually
these types of rituals are associated with satanic worship and Satan is
not a recognised deity within paganism. I have been a witch all of my
life. I worship and practice usually alone, meeting with other like
minded people to share the fun and joy of the festivals of the turning
year. I know a lot of pagans and most of them care passionately about
the earth, nature and animals. These things are an expression of our
lord and lady and we would never harm them. I hope you do not mind me
writing to you, but I really wanted to make my point that true pagans
and witches do not carry out evil deeds or wish to harm anything. Also,
the desecration of sacred and natural sites by fire and leaving litter
etc is not an act of a true pagan, but some misguided souls searching
for an identity.
Blessings Julie Nr Lands End, Cornwall.
18th July 2006
Thank you for calling into the museum this morning and I hope you got
the photos you wanted. Hope also I've got the right web site - if so Ann
who you spoke to is right - its tremendous and gives so much information
on Dartmoor. I'm really pleased you have a link to the museums site - I
tend to get muddled with to and from when it comes to links with web
sites and we have been caught a couple of times, which has been costly!.
so thank you. I will certainly use your site for information.
Best wishes.
Curator - Okehampton Museum of Dartmoor Life.
1st July 2006
Dear Tim,
We have met - just once- outside Lee Moor Hall at a Meet a couple of
years ago; then you were chatting to none other than Chris Kelland (I
believe that's who it was). This letter is simply to say that via Di
Hall-Say I have found your wonderful website and will no doubt spend
many happy hours perusing all the legends and other pages. What a super
way to advertise this beautiful moor and what a deal of pleasure you
will have brought to everyone who reads it. Are the illustrations on it
all letterbox stamps past, present or perhaps future? I love
letterboxing but I don't go as far out as I used to although there are
more than enough lovely boxes to keep me busy as my WOMB e-mail address
book is quite extensive.
Best wishes,
Jan.
27th June 2006
I must admit that I really enjoy reading your site, it ranges from
deadly serious to laugh out loud funny.
Having just taken to Letterboxing (much use of thumbscrews to persuade
my chap it is fun and a real challenge), I found your articles on walks
and dartmoor history etc very helpful, especially as I have two very
eager hounds that seem to have more boxing success than I do!
Fortunately they never throw up in the car, but can track the smallest
trace of fox poo for miles and love to have a crafty roll when the
opportunity arises. I was very sorry to hear about Zeb and have
experienced incidents like this in the Isle of Purbeck (before being
ethnically cleansed by the second home owners), even though I knew the
guy that inspected the footpaths he still didn't act when I quizzed him.
I had problems like this last year near the Scorhill stone circle when
the farmer dismantled a style and expected my very large 35kg lurcher to
magically fly over it - unfortunately he did try to and I spent ages
nursing him before he was able to continue. Just wanted to say thanks
for the site and keep up the good work.
Sarah.
2nd May 2006.
Dear Dartmoorlander,
I'm sure the Bishop you refer to must be John Bishop, the renowned wall
builder that you feature on your site - unfortunately I'm 250 miles from
Dartmoor, and have just spent Easter there, but if I was there now I'd
probably head for Muddilakes Newtake and hope that those bearings start
making sense!
Your website is absolutely superb, incidentally. I've only skimmed the
surface but I find it well written, fascinating and excellently
designed. I too became a 'Dartmoor expert' through letterboxing but have
still learnt much from your WebPages. Many thanks.
Clive.
17th April 2006.
Hi There,
As fellow Dartmoor lovers and letter boxers we are very impressed with
your web site, the content, art work and presentation of the site is
excellent. We believe some of the graphics would make a great series of
letter box stamps. We were wondering if you would allow us to copy some
of the graphics from your web site to produce letterbox stamps for a
letter box walk in aid of a charity lets say ‘’The Dartmoor Leat
restoration’’ or Dartmoor National Parks or a charity of your choosing
to be sold at the next letter boxer’s meet in the Autumn. We would site
the walk and supply the stamps all at our cost and all proceeds would go
to the charity of your choice. We look forward to hearing from you soon.
Kind Regards,
Barry & Tanya.
13th April 2006.
Hi there
I just wanted to write and say how much I have enjoyed the stories on
your site, particularly the piskie stories. I would really like to know
who wrote/collected them as I have been telling them around (I work as a
storyteller) and I would like to be able to credit the stories instead
of saying, “from the internet.” Hope you can help.
Thanks,
Kate.
2nd March 2006
Many thanks for your March letterboxing clue, it has been fun working it
out, and has helped to pass the time whilst we are grounded, trying to
keep immobile our very best friend, of the canine variety, as he awaits
surgery on a broken cruciate ligament. It would be lovely, were we to
solve a future clue, to actually be able to get out and check our
theories. As a total fan of your site, it is obviously a benefit to read
your new additions, and to check in as often as possible. You never know
what you might see and then understand, Kingcups, dropped cups, arrows
and b`s, and mounds distinctly lacking in dead Norsemen suddenly appear
before your eyes. Looking forward to April, I think, although perhaps we
shall not check the clue until after noon. I wonder if anyone might look
for your box at Beardown. !!
Much appreciation, su.
18th February 2006
Hello
Your Dartmoor site is amazing, just how a website should be. It really
is a journey to click through it. In fact, it inspired me to stay down
in Devon last weekend. I stayed at the Church House Inn in Holne, then
explored the moor with a friend the day after. Can you tell me if the
Inn has had any hauntings? Maybe it is in your site, but I just haven't
found it yet!
Mark.
14th February 2006
I am very impressed with your website Legendary Dartmoor.
I am a Voluntary director of the Dartmoor Tourist Association, a group
promoting Dartmoor and the businesses on Dartmoor. One of my interests
is the DTA's new website www.discoverdartmoor.com . You have kindly
added a link to the DTA I was wondering if you would object for us
linking to your site ?
The DTA working in partnership with the National Park are the
organisation who promotes individual accommodation providers on
Dartmoor. Would it be possible to highlight that we offer quality
accommodation for visitors to Dartmoor who may wish to investigate some
of the Legends.
Once again congratulation on a great site.
Kindest Regards.
6th February 2006
Hi
It has been really interesting to see your new letterbox quest on your
rather splendid website, and should we get a chance to go out fairly
soon, if work allows, we might try for the February box at Lord Mayors
Castle, as it would appear that we have had both a Lord Mayor who is
called Gayer, as is one called Gurney. Haven't quite tied in the glace
de mer, other than it rather sounds alike, but if my theory is wrong
then we will have had a walk in one of Dartmoor's most beautiful places.
Love going to your site to see the latest additions, and quite stunning
artwork
all the best,
Su.
23rd January 2006
Wonderful website! Thought you would be interested in listening to an
old time radio program from the '40's concerning Dartmoor. I listen to
these programs as a hobby and the "Hairy Hand of Dartmoor" is on of my
favorites. Out of curiosity, I searched the net to discover Dartmoor is
a real place! I wasn't even sure what a "moor" was before your site!
Anyway, if you were interested you can find the program on the net,
search "Fear on Four" and you'll get it. Enjoy and thanks for the site.
Gina, New Jersey, USA.
22nd January 2006
Hi Tim
Have just been reading about Golden Dagger. I note that you have
mis-spelt Cassiterite. Another point to note - The Dartmoor Tinworking
Research Group do not explore underground workings. They never have, and
never will because of the costs of Insurance. You may advertise the
Plymouth Caving Group or the Devon Mining Club if you so wish as
clubs/groups that legally enter underground mine workings.
Under Virtuous Lady Mine - Morwellham not Morwellam. On the point where
you blatantly accuse (not by name) me of stripping Virtuous Lady Mine,
perhaps you ought to get your facts straight. I never stripped that mine
- it was a mineral dealer from Willand who I did not know at that time.
There is proof of that, and it is recorded with the local Police.
Perhaps you ought to put up a warning that anyone caught entering that
mine will be prosecuted by English Nature and the police as it is a
well-known bat roost. The mine will be gated this coming spring and both
the above mentioned groups will be the point of any access arrangements.
Tim - Your website is a credit to you, and I appreciate it, along
with the time and effort that you have put into it.
Kindest regards - Dartmoor Chris.
14th January 2006
Tim,
Nice job with that website, lots of interesting stuff on there!!
Particularly enjoyed the accounts of the Tavi Badger.....Which in East
Cornish folklore has always been known as the Delabole Badger... I got a
new book for Christmas...'Dartmoor Sun' Dunno whether you've seen it but
it's very similar to your Merrivale page?!
Anyways its got me interested, and I was thinking about having a little
explore of the stone circle at the bottom of corn ridge....all I can
find written about this one is a little bit in Hemery's where he
explains the location but not a lot else. Have you seen any other
information about it??
Aside from that do you have a copy of mine & me Dads clues?? I certainly
don't have any of yours....except something to do with hen tor warren,
are these still sited?? All the best with the website
Adam.
6th January 2006
This is the site I've been waiting for!!! Brilliantly comprehensive and
entertaining with many legends and facts that are new on me - which is
saying something as I have devoured Dartmoor legends since a very young
age.
From one Moorphile to another I salute you! Many thanks
Mel, Plymouth.
6th January 2006
Hi,
It's Ray Young again. Further to my email dated 28 Dec 2005. Since then,
I've enjoyed exploring your site and entering many Waypoints in my GPS.
I hate being a party pooper, but I have spotted a couple errors which
you may want to check. The first one, under the heading of 'The Suit of
Cards' concerns the 'Nine Stones'. Entering the grid reference to
my Garmin takes me to the Nine Stones south of Watchet Hill,
not Ryder's Hill, see scan of the OS map below. The second one (this is
pure nit picking on my part) concerns 'Dartmoor's Remotest Inn'. You
state an altitude of 519m for Moute's Inn, I reckon it should be about
591m, what do you think? Check out the map below. That's all, on the
negative side.
On the positive side, it's still a brilliant website and I will continue
to have many happy hours on it. Thanks for publishing my first email in
the Visitor's Book, (don't worry, I'm not expecting to see this one
there).
Regards,Ray
Many thanks Ray, I have corrected the above
errors.
1st January 2006
Surfed in on the first day of 2006 - what a delight ! I have been under
the spell of "Old Dartymoor" since about 1966 when I was four years old.
I have bookmarked your site and will work my way through the 200 pages
at leisure.
Keep up the good work.
David. PS I live on the edges of western Dartmoor.
1st January 2006
Surfed in on the first day of 2006 - what a delight ! I have been under
the spell of "Old Dartymoor" since about 1966 when I was four years old.
I have bookmarked your site and will work my way through the 200 pages
at leisure.
Keep up the good work.
David. PS I live on the edges of western Dartmoor.
21st December 2005
I just had to write & congratulate you on such a professional web site,
full of interesting anecdotes. In particular am impressed with the
Perambulation page & very jealous of the smart route map.
Keep up the good work
Ian.
10th December 2005
Great site, well informed, a plethora of information. I first visited
the moor training for my Ten Tors expedition and return as often is
possible. From one moor lover to another well done on a great and
informative site.
Neil.
2nd December 2005
Hi, ever since my first visit to the Moor as a small boy on a West
Country holiday, I have returned many times, my most recent visits have
been with my own young family. I believe it to be the most beautiful,
mysterious, wild and perfect spot in the UK. Your site reflects all
these attributes superbly and then some - well done and thanks. Chris
from Norfolk.
28th November 2005
I hope you enjoyed making the website as much as i have enjoyed reading
it! I am going on my duke of Edinburgh's expedition in Dartmoor, and am
pleased to have found such a ready source of information for our project
work. we intend to design our own myths around the antiquities of the
moor, so lets just hope that the ghosts approve! thanks once again, and
see you on the moor. x
13th November 2005
Hi Dartmoorlander!
Loved your website. You'll finish the Dartmoor Delights won't you? The
email link didn't work, so I copied and pasted your address when it came
up on the "don't press anything the computer is doing stuff" bar at the
bottom of the page. Couldn't get to the Visitors' book at all. I'll know
more when I've finished the ECDL. Going to talk about Dartmoor and
I finally found all the answers I was looking for on your site e.g. did
Drake build the Devonport Leat? What does a bulls eye look like? Loved
the apple bit. There's a council run apple orchard somewhere near
Plymouth, built to be a bank of the English apples. Idea for Dartmoor
Delights - Dartmoor Cattle.
Cheers Monica.
30th October 2005
I just came across your website, and it is certainly an excellent site
for anybody interested in Dartmoor myths and legends.I also live on Dartmoor, and think it is a great place to be, and for
people to visit.
Having recently taken over www.dartmoor.co.uk , and tried to make it a
better site for the Dartmoor visitor, I would like to add a link to your
site, as I see you already link to mine. If this is OK, please let me
know.
Best wishes, and maybe we will meet someday,
Trevor Carpenter.
30th October 2005
I have been reading your excellent site. I have a great interest in the
area as my family comes from Chagford/Ashburton to London and thence to
Australia in 1854. I will peruse the rest of the articles with interest
Kind regards Bryan Whiddon Sydney Australia.
18th September 2005
What a find. And what a web-site! I go to Princetown, Dartmoor , every
year in February and November with a group of friends. After spending
the day on the moors we end up drinking Jail Ale in Princetown and this
year i intend to set the nerves on edge with local Ghost-stories. This
website has been an excellent aid. Plus a sinister coincidence has had
light shed upon it. The Hairy Hands at Postbridge live on. (perhaps) One
of our convoy experienced 'erratic steering' whilst driving through
Postbridge!!! Spooky. The Web-site is great. Easy to navigate,
informative and I love the illustrations/pictures. Great Job.